<p>Grinnell, a top LAC, because of the location in rural Iowa.</p>
<p>The hard core right wing religious schools like Bob Jones and Liberty. Great for those kids raised in the parallel universe. (home schooled/Fox News/ Washington Times, Rush Limbaugh)</p>
<p>I would hardly call Hopkins self-selecting, especially with a 30% yield.</p>
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MTF applicants rarely have trouble. The controversy lately has been over FTM students.</p>
<p>[When</a> She Graduates as He - The Boston Globe](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2007/04/08/when_she_graduates_as_he/]When”>http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2007/04/08/when_she_graduates_as_he/)</p>
<p>^ Caltech and UChicago have similar yields and they are self-selecting.</p>
<p>And yet Harvard has a close to 90% yield, but can HARDLY be called self-selecting.</p>
<p>I don’t see your point??</p>
<p>I’d be hesitant to call Chicago self-selecting, however much it flaunts its Uncommon Application and Core. The econ program in particular is a big draw to people who otherwise would perhaps not be good fits.</p>
<p>Well, I’m not so sure you know much about the people who apply to UChicago. A lot of my friends who applied to Northwestern, Duke, etc, refused to apply to UChicago simply because of its reputation for rigor, lack-of-fun, geekiness, etc. The same people applying to Uchicago did apply to places like Harvard, Brown, etc, but were really far and in-between from the general popularity of places like Duke, Cornell, Columbia, etc.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/544940-what-does-mean-if-college-self-selecting.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/544940-what-does-mean-if-college-self-selecting.html</a></p>
<p>^^There was a similar discussion on this topic.</p>
<p>And doctorb, please. There is equally a parallel universe on the other side of the aisle. I don’t even need to describe any radical lunatics because we all know who they are. </p>
<p>By the way, the only people that pin a reactionist right tab on Fox are the aforementioned radical lunatics.</p>
<p>I think Case Western is because despite having a high admissions rate (75% I believe) SAT averages and GPA averages are quite high.</p>
<p>I don’t buy this ‘self selecting’ stuff. Every school is self selecting since people choose to or not to apply. The average Harvard applicant is stronger than the average Chicago applicant so I don’t believe that that explains a schools high acceptance rate.</p>
<p>Do you buy the fact that more people apply to some schools than they do to others?</p>
<p>If you answered yes then you do believe in the concept of “self selection”.</p>
<p>And are you willing to bet that the average Harvard student is stronger than the average U Chicago applicant? Why I bet any U Chicago applicant out Bench press any Harvard applicant any day :D</p>
<p>Hampshire College</p>
<p>collegehelp put his or her finger on the essence of schools that have the REPUTATION of being “self selecting”. In most cases these schools are self-selecting at the yield stage. People who get in choose to go elsewhere. Thus the high admissions rate, given the school’s academic status.
The University of Chicago has only recently had its yield rate surpass its admissions rate. Images continue for a while, but if this persists, before long people will stop describing University of Chicago applicants as “self-selecting”.
Case Western has no such luck.</p>
<p>IBclass06, I definitely wouldn’t say that MTF applicants rarely have trouble. They don’t have trouble at <em>some</em> women’s colleges, but not all women’s colleges are liberal enough to look at things that way. Keep in mind that the majority of women’s colleges are religiously-affiliated or located in conservative areas where transgender issues aren’t looked at with such sensitivity.</p>
<p>Also, there are some basic legal issues involved as well. A lot of women still transitioning are still legally considered males, meaning a lot of applications would instantly rule them out. Colleges phrase things certain ways for a reason.</p>
<p>^well if were talking about the seven sisters then I don’t think they have trouble getting in. The majority of them are very liberal Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Wellesley, are very open. I would even catagorize Smith and Mt. Holyoke as liberal also.</p>
<p>Arizona State University</p>
<p>You “would even” categorize Smith as liberal? It’s the most liberal of them all, at least of the still single-sex ones, and one of the most liberal colleges in country. I don’t think you’re going out on a limb there. ;)</p>
<p>And I hate to say it, but what you think and what are the case might be two different things here. Mills has an official policy against MTF students, and also won’t give degrees to students who fully transition FTM while students. Mount Holyoke, which actually has an exceptional reputation for working with FTM students, also won’t admit students who identify as male, but it will give them degrees once they transition. They’re really not the glowing havens people think they are. I only know three openly trans students on campus, and they’re all FTM, not MTF.</p>
<p>But I guess this is kinda derailing now. :/</p>
<p>HYPMS+Caltech - only those with super strong stats apply to these schools</p>
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<p>So, so not true. Harvard in particular gets a flood of applications every year from students who are “just curious” or just want to say they did it. Some of the biggest slackers I knew growing up applied to those sorts of schools more or less as a joke.</p>
<p>^^I think he just worded it wrong. From what I understand, self-selecting is almost like those who get accepted almost always go (correct me if I’m wrong.) So in a sense, HYPSM+Cal could be “self-selecting” because they have such a high yield.</p>
<p>^ No, I think the OP got it right: Schools that have one or more features that set them apart from others. E.g., someone who wants a Great Books education has a few schools to choose from, so might apply to all of them.</p>