<p>“I was commenting on your earlier post that you didn’t feel you should pray for Sen. Kennedy. But as Christians, aren’t we explicitly instructed to pray for anyone in need, not just people we feel are worthy of prayer?”</p>
<p>This is a conversation I am not willing to have. My faith is my own.</p>
<p>Barrons, maybe if you go to see the Wizard he can give you a heart. You clearly need one.</p>
<p>edit: hmmmm… not sure why I’m so full of Wizard of Oz references today. But now I’m feeling a Monty Python quote: “I’m not dead yet!” after seeing some of the remarks by Sen Kennedy’s colleagues. My mom has had cancer for 4 years and hates when people treat her as if she’s going to die in 10 minutes, or talk about her as if she’s already gone. Give the man a chance to fight!</p>
<p>All sense of appropriateness is lost. The vile words don’t have to be posted.</p>
<p>My heart breaks for the Kennedy family. I do not respect him as a politician, but the reality is his family is going through a horrific period right now. The adage my folks raised me with holds true, if you have nothing kind to say than don’t say anything at all!</p>
<p>I personally wish that all of my best hopes and thoughts are with his family.</p>
<p>If all of the coverage is true, this nation will lose a man soon enough that has suffered pain through losing 2 brothers who were murdered, an alcoholic wife, and now intense amount of pain in his own final hours…he deserves our compassion</p>
<p>Let me tell you how the young woman die –</p>
<p>Mary Jo Kopechne died a slow frieghtening death, trapped in submerged car with water rising, in the cold dark muddy bottom off the waters of massachusett. TKennedy fled the scene, deliberately not to speak to his body guard/driver who was an EMT, and took the last ferry back to mainland. Made sure he exchanged a few words with the night attendant, and next morning, according to his friends, had breakfast, talked and acted normally while a young woman lied dead in his car at the bottom of Massachuttsett Bay. </p>
<p>By the way, I depise his politics too.</p>
<p>Yes the humanitarian in me feels even such a horrible person does not deserve such a horrible disease.</p>
<p>I imagine that, had a child died in his car instead of an adult, there wouldn’t be many people upset about the anti-Ted Kennedy comments in this thread. Even if people disagree from a humanitarian POV, I’m not sure why they’re so mystified that anyone would feel a lot of anger towards this man.</p>
<p>dis-grace…that would not make a difference for me. I could despise his actions in that incident but still feel compassion for his diagnosis. I don’t have to like everything about a person to feel compassion for grave illness. I don’t tie those together when I hear someone is ill. If I were having a discussion in judging character or politics, it would then be relevant to the discussion.</p>
<p>By the way, I do not observe anyone being mystified that others feel anger toward this man. However, I do feel mystified that someone would not feel sorry for a grave diagnosis for any human being, despite their history of actions and despite their political leanings (or in some cases on this thread, despite their age).</p>
<p>I hope that Senator Kennedy’s final time is comfortable and peaceful for him and his family.</p>
<p>I will be glad when the disgrace of having him serve in the US Senate is over and I look forward to voting against “Patches” or whatever other Kennedy they decide to have run for the Kennedy seat.</p>
<p>Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.</p>
<p>For those who have forgotten the role of Senator Kennedy and his no-account dope addict son Patrick in the rape that allegedley occured at the Kennedy compound in Florida.</p>
<p>[Kennedy</a> Actions in Florida Just After Incident Are in Spotlight - New York Times](<a href=“http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE4D71E31F936A25756C0A967958260]Kennedy”>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE4D71E31F936A25756C0A967958260)</p>
<p>Wow I cannot believe how cruel many of you are. This is very sad. For all his flaws, Senator Kennedy has devoted his life to others and helping those less fortunate. He has lived through the murders of two brothers and the untimely deaths of two more siblings. My prayers are with the Senator and his family and with those who cannot now relate to the sorrow his family and admirers are feeling. Empathy is a trait far better than high SAT’s.</p>
<p>Teddy Kennedy was a horrible person who cheated in school, treated women like they were toys (and killed one), used his position and power to avoid consequence others could not have avoided, and he has truly harmed American with big government politics. Even though I believe all of this, I am sorry that he has brain cancer. I don’t like to see anyone in pain, even someone as horrible as Sen. Kennedy. If O.J. Simpson got a brain tumor tomorrow, I would feel the say way about him. It is simply sad for Sen. Kennedy to end his career and life this way. I hope his family is as well as they can be under the circumstances.</p>
<p>EDIT: In fairness, I should say that Sen. Kennedy was correct on the Iraq war. He voted against it and I wish more people (including me) had paid attention to him at that time.</p>
<p>I am disappointed, reading many of these posts. I have never voted for or supported a democratic candidate in my life, and probably could not possibly be much further to the right, but, we NEED Kennedys and persons like him in the Senate and in the House too, and we need the very important work they do and the valuable contributions they make; we need the balance, the learning opportunities, etc., but more importantly, whoever here is perfect and has never done anything wrong, please write the next post…</p>
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Totally agree and would go a step further. I’m sickened.
This is a man who lost two siblings who served our country and then worked on behalf of the citizens of the US for decades. How many of you have contributed as much to our nation. Wow, have a little respect.</p>
<p>Yes, for all who are casting stones…
What do you want people to do when God forbid, you are diagnosed with cancer, or even die? Should nobody mourn if they don’t think you have led a perfect life with no wrongdoing? Should nobody feel compassion for you unless they agree with your politics? </p>
<p>Besides all the negative things about this person being brought up, he also has suffered tragedies and he has also served his country. Even if he did things that are negative, nobody deserves cancer and nobody deserves a lack of compassion when gravely ill. Nobody said to like the person but the cruelty of heart is hard to observe here. I don’t think judgment of this person is what this should be about. If one were debating a public figure’s conduct or politics, that is one thing. But this thread is not about commentary on a person but about his unfortunate illness. I hope when YOU or YOUR FAMILY become very ill, that others will have empathy for you, despite any of your wrongdoings in life.</p>
<p>It is hard to observe that people are bringing their politics into a discussion of someone’s illness. Truly is hard to watch.</p>
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interesteddad is everyone who has a substance abuse problem a worthless individual? You have a completely black and white view of ANYONE- students who drink, anyone who has used drugs. Do you feel the same unforgiving hatred toward others with mental illness? Should they be locked away as not worthy of existence? </p>
<p>I guess because a man has struggled with addiction all his contributions to society should be discounted.</p>
<p>Nobody made Patrick Kennedy use his family connections to become a US Congressman despite spending his entire life (starting in prep school) as a dope-addict screw up.</p>
<p>Seriously. What do we owe Patrick Kennedy? He’s a public figure. If he doesn’t like the heat, he is more then welcome to just go away. He should.</p>
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<p>LTS :eek: I wrote the ‘next’ post! But I’m not perfect and I’ve made way too many mistakes!!</p>
<p>I remain simply mystified that many of you will continue to say such horribly unkind things about a person in their time of need. Can’t you put your politics behind your for just one moment and express well wishes, even if you dislike the person or their history? Easy for you to hide behind a screenname on an anonymous forum. Makes you simply a coward. I often enjoy the banter on cc. Today I am simply disgusted.</p>
<p>So, let’s say your child or parent or brother or sister is an alcoholic or drug abuser. Do you cut them off? Do you boycott their funeral? Do you feel that if they get cancer that they deserve ill will? I don’t know about you, but I love some people who are alcoholics (or recovering ones) and would feel terrible for them if they got cancer. You may be lucky that nobody you have loved has been afflicted with drug or alcohol addiction. But I’d hope you’d still have empathy for their cancer illness or death, should that happen to them and they are related to you.</p>