<p>Guy pays 100% of the time. I was raised with these old values deep ingrained, and it is only natural to offer to pay. I don’t think I would mind paying 50/50, but I would feel a bit of remorse about it.</p>
<p>Wow, some of these guys are not gentlemen at all. Didn’t your parents teach you proper etiquette? I guess it’s a chain of degenerates? Oh well, have fun taking your date to TGI fridays while sporting your muscle T shirt.</p>
<p>pds004,</p>
<p>I’m not sure if I’m being implicated, but let’s just say that I have never taken my significant other on a date to TGI Fridays (in fact, I don’t think we’ve ever gone there together?) Our last “date” (they don’t happen often thanks to work) was spent at a nice little French bistro in Greenwich Village.</p>
<p>I wore a collared shirt, slacks, and some dress casual black shoes.</p>
<p>Though I guess you could call my socks degenerate. They’re cheapos from Wal*Mart. You wouldn’t believe how comfortable their bamboo nylon socks are, though!</p>
<p>too be honest i pay a lot b/c my bf panicks when he has too pay for me i mean full out anger…yeah…hell he freaked out when i asked him to get me a soda(yes just a soda 2 dollars)…and hes paying for a full meal at the time this happened yesterday</p>
<p>OK, that’s just dumb. I don’t really know how to not be blunt about this…</p>
<p>the person who suggested the date/asked the other person out should pay.</p>
<p>Well, some of the stuff could make sense, but then i got to the post where you said you didn’t pay for the first date. Unless she really wanted to pay for it, or unless she asked you on the date, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t pay for the whole thing.</p>
<p>Like one of the posters(ariesathena) before said</p>
<p>“-Men do the asking and pay for dates
-Women reciprocate, but in more subtle ways. They magically produce tickets to the theatre; they make presents and goodies; they cook dinner.”</p>
<p>Exactly what miss manners said </p>
<p>"Even back when gentlemen were expected to pay all the dating bills, ladies were supposed to reciprocate. They did it by inviting the gentlemen to home-cooked meals and through subterfuge — pretending that they had been given theater tickets, for example. "</p>
<p>[url=<a href=“http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=8319060]Miss”>http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=8319060]Miss</a> Manners: On Footing the Dating Bill - </p>
<p>I wouldn’t mind paying for a first date (which is usually only coffee anyway), but I won’t, since I’d be handing over my balls in doing so.</p>
<p>And there’s no way that I’d pay for her on subsequent dates. The tradition was based on men making more than women, but this generation of women (the one in my age group and slightly older) are actually making more than men. So yeah, 50/50. This isn’t the 1950s.</p>
<p>no, women make like $0.88 for every $1 a man makes. the wage gap is decreasing, but it’s certainly not equal.</p>
<p>Not in our generation. Present day 20-30 year old women make more than men. The stat that you’re quoting includes older women. </p>
<p>I’m also not talking about women vs. men doing the same job. Just a complete gender comparison. I believe the reason for the switch is due to the higher proportion of women entering university.</p>
<p>Guys ALWAYS pay for me, even when I try to get them not to. It’s because I’m attractive and they want to get in my pants though… and since I know what they’re doing, I hate it. The stop calling me the minute I tell them that I’m not sleeping with them.</p>
<p>this is kinda sad…what our society has become. people don’t even know the proper etiquitte of going out on a first date. last i checked, anyone who remotely considers themself a gentlman pays…</p>
<p>however a lot of girls like myself insist that we pay 50%, but if the guy is well mannered he will refuse to take the money</p>
<p>I understand that the “proper etiquette” is outdated, since it originated based on economic disparity which no longer exists. Take a minute to think logically instead of wanting to preserve every tradition that benefits you.</p>
<p>What “society has become” is one based on equality and, if you don’t like it, I have some laundry that needs to be done.</p>
<p>russell…guys like u are the reason so many women are single and refuse to date. i bet you are of those lonely guys posting on craigslist offering a free massage with ur filty hands in exchange for sexual intercourse</p>
<p>Seriously… that’s pathetic. I post something logical and relevant and you have nothing to respond with other than bland insults in a poor attempt to save face.</p>
<p>Women like you are the reason that many misogynists exist. You want equality, yet you hypocritically want to keep traditions like this.</p>
<p>until men learn how put their bodies through 9 months of carrying around a baby that stretches out and transorms their body in unimaginable ways only to go through sometimes up to 42 hours of labor and unbearable pain to deliver this creature, men have to be gentlmanly enough to pay for dates. understood?</p>
<p>No, not understood. I’ll do anything for my pregnant wife, given the situation that I ever have one. But I’m not going to pay for meals and whatnot for some random chick who I merely go on a date with. You’re really grasping for straws by pulling the pregnancy card in a thread about dating on a college forum.</p>
<p>It depends. Generally, I pay for them but we split if she seems to want to pay. Although, I’ll probably stop paying for them after several dates since we know each other more. (Hence, I don’t have to impress her too much anymore)</p>
<p>i think real men would not even complain about who pays what. it just all sounds so petty. it’d be nice if a guy always paid, but if the girl is decent, she will offer once in a while. dinner is not that expensive (unless you go to expensive restaurants for anniversaries, etc.). and if it is to you, then cook at home.</p>