<p>“White Democratic party voters don’t like being called racist, as the Obama campaign and its surrogates did in an effort to explain humiliating losses in NH, OH, and PENN.”</p>
<p>NH??? How was NH a humiliating loss? Both Clinton and Obama got 9 delegates there! </p>
<p>It was Iowa that was a very humiliating loss for Clinton. She liked going in to NH as the alleged underdog so that her surrogates could name her the “comeback kid” when she tied Obama. She really didn’t blow the socks off anyone in NH! She really should have. Remember her original national campaign co-chairman was Billy Sheehan (before he got fired for bringing up Obama’s “drug use”.) Billy was the husband of the ex-Governor of NH. Of course Clinton should have done well there. In fact, she should have done better than she did with all that powerful democratic support gunning for her in NH. :eek:</p>
<p>The only ones that predicted an inaccurate outcome for NH were the <em>pollsters</em> and the media.</p>
<p>Pennsylvania wasn’t a humiliating loss either. If you remember, Clinton was up by 20 points a few months prior to the PA primary. The fact that Obama came within 9 points was actually considered a very good showing for him, better than expected.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton began her political career as a volunteer for Barry Goldwater, she was proudly a “Goldwater Girl”. She is, was and will always be a political opportunist, pandering to WHATEVER will move her ahead personally. </p>
<p>Her other “alliances” have been working for a law firm with other attorneys who were acknowledged communists. From Goldwater then to communists… where and for what does this woman stand for. She stands for the advancement of Hillary Clinton at any costs and regardless of the consequences to her party, to this country.</p>
<p>The most accurate statement made in this campaign was from the Obama campaign worker who called Senator Clinton a “monster”.</p>
<p>The woman will do and say ANYTHING. She has her view and her vision not unlike the same stubborn minded divisive attitude of our current President. This is the woman who will “obliterate” another sovereign nation and wants to bring you another administration of “us vs. them”.</p>
<p>Here’s hoping and praying that tomorrow brings an end to her campaign.</p>
<p>She was 16 years old when Barry Goldwater ran for President. Someone who actually knows something about Clinton could have picked a much better example. In 1968, while at Wellesley, she summer interned for Congressman Mel Laird (later Sec of Defense) at the Republican Congressional election committee. She attended the Republican Convention in Miami while working for Laird and then attended the Democratic convention in Chicago the same summer as an unpaid McCarthy volunteer. She was head of the Wellesley Republicans when she started campaigning for McCarthy. But, of couse, you know absolutely nothing about Clinton so you picked the absurd attack that she was Goldwater girl in high school.</p>
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<p>Wow, I’m shocked that Ken Starr missed the fact that there were Communists working in the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arizona. Amazing. I never in a million years would have pegged a Brooks Bros. corporate law firm in Little Rock, Arkansas of all places as a hotbed of “communism”. Have you shared this with the FBI?</p>
<p>I assume that you are all befuddled with mixed up stories and are talking about the college senior thesis she wrote about Chicago community organizer Saul Alinsky, who has probably been cited for Communist “leanings”. Clinton turned down a job with Alinsky after college and instead worked with Marian Wright Edelman’s Childrens Defense Fund during Yale Law School.</p>
<p>Rose is the only law firm Clinton has ever worked for. She worked for the Sentate Watergate Committee. And, she was appointed to the Legal Services Corporation by Jimmy Carter and later became chairman of that national organization provides legal services for indigent clients. It’s an quasi-independent agency of the federal government.</p>
<p>You might be confusing Clinton with Obama. He did go to work for some Alinsky derivative community groups in Chicago and studied his techniques. Omaba’s father was a Marxist. His grandfather was a member of the Communist Party. But, I wouldn’t hold that against Obama.</p>
<p>yeah and Obama is aligned with Farrakahn. And you insulting me that I know nothing. Who appointed you the purveyor of facts and truth. Just like your gal, you will say and twist anything and insult people and stamp your little feet when they say something you don’t care for.</p>
<p>But thanks for making one point for truth, as a Young Republican she supported McCarthy. Again, sir, not unlike you she will do and say anything to further herself (a Republican for McCarthy), and like you, will be rude, divisive and insulting.</p>
<p>She stands for NOTHING but herself and I find no surprise that you support that.</p>
<p>Hey. I’m just trying to help you out. It’s embarrassing for you to attack someone for who they supported in a Presidential election while in high school.</p>
<p>Like many young adults in college, Clinton’s politics changed from those of her father to her own views at the time of the 1968 election. I doubt she was the only student that year to experience a conversion. It was a polarizing summer of politics and unrest, starting with the assassinations of MLK and Robert Kennedy and culminating with the riots at the Democratic Convention in Chicago.</p>
<p>You’ve got to kidding? Right? She was a summer intern during law school working on child custody cases for a firm in Oakland, one of whose partners had been a “Communist” during the 40s and 50s. Big whoop. </p>
<p>At least she wasn’t smoking dope and doing cocaine in college.</p>
<p>Alright, i think you guys are forgetting something. </p>
<p>The reason why all of this “racial bloc voting” is so obvious right now is because we are dealing with two candidates who are running on VIRTUALLY THE SAME platform. This will be much less of a problem when there are substantive differences between the two candidates (and i think we can all agree that the democrats and the republicans have some BIG differences this election). </p>
<p>We also must note that the voters who make up Hillary’s base, women, white working class, are much more aligned with the democratic stance on the Iraq war, the economy, and health care. Once they exit petty competition mode they will realize that Barack is far better than any republican for president, especially one that wants to “stay the course” in Vietna- I mean Iraq… </p>
<p>Finally if Hillary were to get the nod, she HAS to win the delegate count. She can’t get by on just the popular vote. Why? Because you can’t let black voters and young voters feel like the nomination was stolen from them. Especially among black voters, this would confirm their suspicion that the party does not work for them. NO democrat has ever won the presidency without carrying the black vote since the civil rights movement.</p>
<p>Clinton supporters can be reeled back into the party with the issues if given enough time, but black supporters of Obama would be dealt a possibly irreparable blow if their candidate won by the party rules and then the Clintons were allowed to change them.</p>
<p>IDAD- you’re just trying to help me out. No you’ve just repeatedly insulted me, told me I know nothing, conveniently forget a few facts like the communist bent firm she worked for in 1971. </p>
<p>Perhaps you were also under Bosnian gunfire so you forgot a few things that went on. And gee thanks for the history lesson and your presumptions to go along with you’re knowledge of everything. I worked for Gene McCarthy that summer, I remember it well.</p>
<p>As far as conversions, the trouble with your candidate is she has a conversion every time she thinks it will help her career. Again, she stands for NOTHING but herself.</p>
<p>And amazing YOU actually know her personal habits in college. Maybe you were there when she threw her non-existant book bag when she heard about Dr. King being shot. Give it a rest pal. You know nothing and are just a bully like your candidate.</p>
<p>No offense, but who cares if you were a Goldwater girl in junior high school? I was ten when Goldwater ran. I know my father was a die-hard Republican. I think I was agnostic at age 10. I became a Democrat sometime around 1968 or so, although I couldn’t vote until the '72 election.</p>
<p>Hillary’s supporters already believe the nomination was stolen with the Michigan/Florida shenanigans. No Democrat will ever win without women voters.</p>
<p>Actually, you wouldn’t be too far off to say that no Democrat has won since the Civil Rights Act was passed by LBJ. Only Carter, who was run out of town on the rails and Bill Clinton, the only Democrat elected to two terms since FDR. So, it’s fair to ask, “how’s that black vote thing working out for the Dems?”</p>
<p>Well she sure voted a resounding AYE to authorize the war in Iraq and doesn’t have the guts, honesty or integrity to acknowledge that grotesque mistake that has cost over 4000 American families their sons and daughters.</p>
<p>And by the way, nice racist remark there in your post #53.</p>
<p>So interesteddad doesn’t agree with your point, he is not officially a ■■■■■.</p>
<p>Grow UP!</p>
<p>The original question that I posted was should Hillary leave, it now has resorted to picking on someone who does not agree with your opinions!</p>
<p>Is he wrong(or misinterpreting the fact) to state that Hillary was a Goldwater Girl? Was he wrong to state Obama did Cocaine and walked in the Million Man March?</p>
<p>Hubris…</p>
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<p>I agree and stated that 4 pages ago…however, I would never vote for Obama in your line of thought…
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<p>If he cared at all he would not be running the ads that he is in NC.</p>
<p>Hate to say it to you, but Obama is starting to look more like a political machine than she does! Afterall, this is a guy who was a SENATOR for @13 mos. before announcing his candidacy (FEB 07), I would have more respect for him if he had actually had done something in the Senate instead of spending the time creating an exploration team to see if he had a chance to win!</p>