<p>Salad bars are very logistically hard to do and even harder to keep safe.</p>
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<p>Does your road hurt you in the long run? Does it end up doing more harm than good? Never heard of a road like that, but if that’s the deal than yeah you better stop driving on it.</p>
<p>No free lunches because they do not exist. People are paying for lunches, they are not always the same people who eat them, but everything is paid for. Even if you volunteer your time and money, this only means that your time and money are not spent somewhere else. So the question is should we pay for school lunches or should we pay for something else?</p>
<p>There are far more expensive programs to cut, that serve people who are not in the US legally. Let’s take a look at those first. And yes, I do believe some of those same folks’ kids would also be eating the “free” lunch.</p>
<p>No bones about folks here legally receiving services, including FRL. Everyone who pays taxes has the right to a safety net…mind you, not a permanent one, but one that can be utilized in times of dire need. Feeding kids whose folks have fallen on hard times is one of the best bets in the public aid arena, IMO.</p>
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Just give these kids more food stamps/ WIC or whatever…and they can eat at home and bring lunch from home.</p>
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Some of the most needy still wouldn’t get breakfast and lunch with the extra food stamps. They don’t have anyone at home shopping and cooking for them - or even capable of putting out a bowl of cereal or packing a lunch. These are the most at risk kids. *</p>
<p>Any child who is living in a home where no one grocery shops (with available food stamps) or can put a bowl of cereal on the table is in a dangerous home and needs to be removed. Period. </p>
<p>What kind of sane system thinks that it’s better to leave a child to be reared in a home where the adult(s) doesn’t take on the responsibility to get his/her hiney to a store to get food when the food is FREE??? </p>
<p>(And we then think that if healthcare were free that these same irresponsible parents would take their kids for treatment when needed? ha ha…that’s a laugh…since when would a parent who can’t get his hiney to the grocery store take his kid to the doctor or hospital??? And, I don’t really believe that these folks aren’t going to stores…they’re eating, too…and they’re smoking too and they’re not growing their own tobacco!!!)</p>
<p>Thinking that providing free school meals to these kids solves the problem is just enabling a worse situation. It ignores that these kids may be getting calories, but they aren’t getting the equally important parenting/supervision that is needed for them to grow up to be responsible citizens and future good parents themselves. We’re enabling a cycle of ugly behavior. </p>
<p>If you think that just food is lacking in such a home, then you’re being very naive. Any parent who doesn’t get his hiney to a store for food for his child is the same kind of parent who won’t be bothered to get a child vaccinated, wash his clothes, make sure child bathes/brushes teeth, or seek medical care when needed.</p>
<p>I do not buy into the idea that poor parents are lousy parents. I don’t buy that at all. My grandparents were very, very poor, but they were never too busy or whatever to get themselves to the store for food for their 8 kids. And, certainly if they had had food stamps, they would have been at the store bright and early. </p>
<p>There are lousy, irresponsible, and dangerous parents. We should not be leaving kids with those people. Period. Income is irrelevant. It costs NOTHING to be a caring parent. That is a free virtue.</p>
<p>Salad bars are hard to keep hygienically safe with kids. And, after about 5 kids went thru, the salad bar would look like a cyclone hit it.</p>
<p>However, some pre-made salads topped with a choice of chix or turkey or ham (with or without cheese) with individual dressing containers is possible.</p>
<p>Exactly because there are no “kids whose folks have fallen on hard times” in the USA. They do not exist. There are people who choose to spend their money on something else, instead of feeding the kids. These kids need much more than food. If you provide lunch for everybody, why not just take them kids from parents, put them into insitutions and take care of them? —The most ridiculuos idea that creates more problems than solves anything. Free lunch creates more problem than provide any kind of solution. Then it goes, if publics give them free lunch, why not privates, why not the most expansive ones? Everybody is paying taxes, then provide for everybody. How about home schooled? Yes, deliver lunch to homes of home schooled. Oh, it was a prents’ desicion to home school? And now we are limited with choices for kids’ schooling because of free lunch? The list can go on and on. The more gov. pays for out of taxpayers money, the more gov. has control. I suppose there are those who would love to be controled as much as possible, I do not belong there, been there, not nice society.</p>
<p>*The plan is to gradually faze out unhealthy foods, until they are all replaced. *</p>
<p>I’m not fazed by the plan to phase out unhealthy foods. Do it now.</p>
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This program is going to do that, as well. If you read the fine print, they are counting illegal immigrants into that 40% trigger.</p>
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<p>All the interesting, official details.</p>
<p>This paragraph from a Kentucky newspaper unnerves me. I thought it was just a test and if I this article correctly it will be opened up to all other states. </p>
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<p>Quote from: [New</a> Free Lunch Program Coming To Ky. - Education News Story - WLKY Louisville](<a href=“Louisville, KY News, Weather and Sports - WLKY Channel 32”>Louisville, KY News, Weather and Sports - WLKY Channel 32)</p>
<p>I want the children who need help to get it, but this is beginning to sound like a scam to get us to pay for all school lunches by sliding it in under legislation intended to improve the healthy eating habits of school children.</p>
<p>If we would try and stop the abuses of the welfare, food stamp, housing subsidy systems then we could afford to buy lunch for everyone under the age of 60.</p>
<p>Don’t forget abuses of corporate America^^^^^^^^^^^</p>
<p>Talk about a free lunch.</p>
<p>My economic teacher taught us that, “there is no such thing as a free lunch.”</p>
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<p>There are many kids in homes like this and there is no way to reach them. There is no way to even know who they are. They live in neighborhoods where this is common. No one is reporting child neglect unless a child ends up in an emergency room or a fire occurs when they are home alone or some other tragedy occurs. Not everyone who needs food stamps gets them. Some are not able to even get it together enough to apply for food stamps. They have to have certain documentation regarding income, expenses, etc.</p>
<p>I have such mixed feelings about this. I have lived in KY and I know some of those poor counties. Kids go without free lunch when everyone knows they need it simply because the parents are too ignorant/illiterate/screwed up to fill out and return the forms. I see no need to feed kids whose families can afford to feed them but I simply can’t stand the idea of a child going hungry, anywhere, anytime. Not acceptable. If we must feed them all to feed the hungry I’m willing to pay, but I am aware that I am paying.</p>
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<p>parent1986- I agree that there are abuses everywhere. I guess I was focusing on abuses within the systems that are supposed to help the poor and vulnerable since that is the topic.</p>
<p>There wouldn’t be so many poor and vulnerable if corporate America wasn’t so corrupt.</p>
<p>Corporate America causes the abuses within the system.</p>
<p>Same topic.</p>
<p>We live in a Title 1 district in PA with free lunch/breakfast for all kids. We have had the free meal program for 2 years. The vast majority of our district families would qualify anyway. There is no obligation for the kids to eat the meals, and we often pack lunches because my kids are vegetarians. If there is a vegetarian option available on the menu for breakfast or lunch, my kids typically get the school meals that day. My kids don’t think the food is wasted. If someone does not want an item, it is put on the “share table” and then someone else can take that item. Sometimes my older son will eat 4 bananas. The meals are reasonably healthy with no sweet items like chocolate milk or dessert. The only time the schools really insist that the kids eat the breakfast and lunch are during standardized testing times (the dreaded PSSA’s). That way they know the kids have some nutrition before taking their tests.</p>
<p>parent - I was trying to be nice and keep away from the old “us versus them” behavior. Do you want someone to jump down in the hole with you and suggest that we eliminate Corporate America? Then we would never again have to hear how corrupt they are and without any revenue we can all be on the free lunch program together and have chats about how great life is without those evil people. </p>
<p>Sorry to snap, but my button got pushed.</p>
<p>I still think we should feed those who cannot fend for themselves and NOT give taxpayer subsidized breakfast, lunch and dinner to everyone else in the school district.</p>
<p>Poor baby. Cry me a river.</p>
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