To be honest, this job is around 60 miles away. I think that $5k should be enough…
To everyone with a negative perspective about any bonus or too much of a bonus, what are you basing your claims on? Fears or hiring management experience or some other type of experience.
Well, in the original question, it’s because you were trying to take a one-time payment of $10,000 over an annual payment of $10,000. That’s incredibly shortsighted. That’s an additional $830 a month you’re leaving out there - maybe after tax it’s more like $500-600, but still, that’s a lot of money. That’s more than a car note would be worth. That’s not even mentioning the long term hit on your salary that would be, since lots of employers base a new offer on your old salary.
Also, yes, an additional $10,000 per year is a drop in the bucket for them, particularly when it comes to software developers. Bad code is bad code, and a company would usually rather have the best candidate for $45-55K than a mediocre candidate for $35K, especially if $45-55K is what they budgeted for. A bad candidate could cost them far more than that. Not saying that you are a bad candidate! But perception is everything, and lowballing yourself can give the perception that you aren’t that great a candidate.
How did you get an interview without even finishing your degree. I’m in Austin TX with a BS in CS and can’t get a reply for ANY entry level position Ive applied to. What gives!
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watch, such as Eli the Computer Guy, YouTube videos on how there is so much work out there and not enough programmers. Lot of the same witnesses and stories on the net. You probably shouldn’t limit yourself because what you believe.
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apply to any and all entry, junior, mid, senior, lead, etc jobs, especially the lowest paying jobs. Do this constantly for days (which I haven’t, unfortunately).
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praying with unshakable faith and patience helps, especially if getting a job or particular job is according to His will in your life (what He would like to see). IE: praying because such a job will allow you to help the homeless…or something…
** It’s tough. It’s so much better, I think, if you build a portfolio of work… I haven’t had the time to, or know how to manage my time in such a way to create a portfolio and have work ASAP. If I wanted to, I would spend 1 or so months and do that. Unfortunately, I don’t feel that I have the time to do that…so that’s why I’ve been praying. A lot of the time, praying works. A lot of people don’t realize that.
Yeah…$10k is a lot. $5k is better??
As others said, never ever ever negotiate your salary down. Signing and relocation bonuses always benefit the employer more than the employee - many employers will deliberately offer you a sign-on bonus with a lower salary simply because it means they will pay you less in the long run by virtue of giving you lower nominal raises even without giving you lower percentage raises. Do not, under any circumstances, try to negotiate salary into bonus!
A relocation package for a 60-mile move is possible but not incredibly likely. Generally relocation packages are for people who need to make serious moves; 60 miles is within commuting distance for some people. You might get a small relocation package, but don’t expect all that much.
Further, a relocation bonus is less important for an entry-level employee - you’re likely to be moving no matter what, and you don’t have a great argument to make. If you are given multiple offers, then you will suddenly have leverage with regard to salary, signing bonus, or relocation package, but if you have no other offers and no current employment, the only leverage you have is a willingness to continue not having a job.
Why do I say don’t bring it up? It’s a red flag that you will be high maintenance or are bad with obligations. (Will you keep asking me for and advance? Type of question in their head.
Now once they offer you the job, you can ask if the provide relocation $, I think that is fair, if they are paying relo. But asking prior to the offer is not a great idea.