<p>So a teacher using questions from the packet in class would be illegal too? The only difference is that this is over the internet. Give silverturtle a break. I doubt the CB will be as anal about it as you’re being.</p>
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<p>You might just be right that only reproducing (e.g. photocopying, scanning, etc.) the pages would be illegal, which in case you did not, but it will be interesting to find out. There is such a thin line between the definitions of the words reproduce and copy. </p>
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<p>I believe that teachers are allowed to utilize such materials in a class room environment; however, the materials themselves can not be taken out of the class room. </p>
<p>Only difference? Heh, seems like quite a difference: using questions with 30 or so kids in a class room versus putting questions online for an infinite amount of people to see.</p>
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<p>Ha, I’m not the “bad guy” here. I’m merely trying to make sure that silverturtle’s thread is not disturbed in the future and that he himself is safe. We wouldn’t want to lose our silver turtle. :)</p>
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<p>We must also consider motive. The College Board has likely never made any effort to undertake the impossible task of stopping people from posting Blue Book questions online because there is no monetary incentive in doing so. Likewise, my reproduction costs them no money and makes me no money. If anything, this guide makes them some money by encouraging people to purchase the Blue Book.</p>
<p>Kids on this site talk about the answers to the SAT immediately after they take the test when they are explicitly told not to. That’s been going on for years. Nothing bad has happened. I doubt reproducing a few questions from a QAS is going to stir up any attention from the collegeboard.</p>
<p>So despite the fact that he’s doing the exact same thing that a teacher would be doing, silverturtle’s case is the illegal one only because more people are seeing it? I’m not sure that’s how the law works.</p>
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<p>Heh, indeed. It is rather interesting how much people get away with here. </p>
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<p>Not at all; I thought that the post was assuming that the teacher was merely going over the questions in class and not reproducing them and then giving them to his students. </p>
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<p>It costs $18 to order the January 2010 SAT and even if (and hopefully so) what you did is legal, I think it would be a smart move to at least include a disclaimer below/above the questions informing people that the questions were taken from the January 2010 SAT. I’m not trying to get into any arguments here.</p>
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<p>Yes, that might have been wise. However, I cannot imagine that there are more than a dozen or so people who have not yet ordered the January 2010 QAS but intend to do so.</p>
<p>Is the January 2010 QAS even orderable anymore? It’s past 5 months, the deadline to order it in.</p>
<p>“However, I cannot imagine that there are more than a dozen or so people who have yet to order the January 2010 QAS but intend to do so.”</p>
<p>I doubt there are any, as the deadline to order them has passed. (5 months after test)</p>
<p>In any case, I’ve drawn this out longer than necessary, because at the end of the day, who cares? Heh heh. So, just when you get a chance, be sure to get a moderator to edit something in there and I’ll let you know when I get a response (if I ever do, heh) from the College Board about the “fine line” between reproducing and copying. </p>
<p>Again, good job with this thread. ;)</p>
<p>Discussing the tests after you take them is NOT illegal. They read out the instructions to us every time we take the test, and they explicitly state the following: Not to copy/reproduce any part of the test, not to take the test away from the testing site, not to distribute the test. THAT is illegal. They also state that we cannot talk about the test until all countries are finished testing (and on CC, we DO do that) and cannot distribute essay prompts until your essay is graded. We’re probably guilty of the last one, but frankly, who cares, it’s never cost anyone anything. They do NOT say you can’t discuss the test after all countries are done testing. We’re not copying/reproducing/taking test materials - we’re merely posting answers and the occasional explanation - after the embargo is lifted, which is what CB tells us we can do. I see no violation here.</p>
<p>I love the way this is written. Even though college admissions, for now, are past me this guide is INCREDIBLY helpful. Thanks Silverturtle. </p>
<p>Hats off to you.</p>
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<p>I really don’t think the intent was to allow either one as long as both aren’t done. This reading would allow anyone to resell QAS booklets. Also it is hard to see how the guide is not a reuse of the material. But, I’ve always been under the impression that banning “reuse” is not allowable under copyright law (non-lawyer here, take with a large grain of salt). Also, I’m hoping (and I think) that the CB won’t be concerned.</p>
<p>Silverturtle, this is an amazing guide! Thank you so much.</p>
<p>However, unlike most CCers, I am terrible at math and need help. I bought the Gruber’s Complete SAT Math Workbook. Any other tips beside lots and lots of math SAT section practice?</p>
<p>Hey silverturtle, I just got done reading your guide after about 2-3 days! haha, once again thank you. I had 2 questions though. </p>
<p>In the Hooks section, you mentioned “- Being famous: Self-explanatory.” would be one hook, but does being famous on the Internet count? Like, if you have a music account for playing guitar / piano on Youtube and you have many fans? Is that worth putting on a college application?.. Or did you mean famous as in you made a difference in the city you live in somehow?</p>
<p>My other question is what are the chances of getting rejected from 5 low to mid reach schools? I recently posed a question on the What Are My Chances? forum and most people said some of the schools I’m applying to are low to mid reaches, but high matches at best. This worried me a bit. =(</p>
<p>This guide is really helpful. I will definitely review some of those SAT Writing and CR tips.</p>
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<p>Nothing beyond what I have shared in the guide immediately comes to mind.</p>
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<p>How many fans are we talking about? How many hits do your videos have? Anyhow, mentioning your music interests on the application is surely worthwile, and making note of your popularity online in an essay or something is likewise a good idea. </p>
<p>I was, however, thinking of the famous hook as being for people who are very well-known (majors actors/actresses and top recording artists), a rare situation indeed.</p>
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<p>The “low-reach”/“mid-reach”/“high-reach” system is so subjective and non-standardized that it is difficult to say. Consistent with how I would use the term “low-reach,” though, being rejected from all of five schools that are deemed to be low-reaches would be very unlikely, just as acceptance to all of them would be highly unlkely.</p>
<p>-never mind, I didn’t read the question carefully myself…</p>
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<p>Hmmm let’s say about 1000 subscribers and 5000 - 20000 views for every video? Still worth putting in the application? Would I have to mention the URL to my channel?</p>
<p>I wd consider it your ec, discuss it in most meaningful ec essay with impressive stats re subscribers and views. Give URL only if not offensive otherwise just describe. Also have an unusual Internet type ec and don’t know how it will be perceived. I believe the buzzword is new media and try to have some legitimating authority, like a review in a music magazine.</p>