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<p>I think that this question illustrates the same misinterpretation of what I am saying that kingsize is committing. I am not saying that the applicant with the higher GPA has a higher chance than you; I am merely saying that his or her applying will hurt your chance.</p>
<p>Jimmy797- I have replied with a PM.
And silverturtle- I deeply apologize for using this sagacious thread as a forum of discussion- maybe you should ask the moderators to close this thread, since this is more of a resource rather than a typical thread of forums.</p>
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<p>I am sorry, but this is a classical logical fallacy.</p>
<p>So if A has a higher GPA, A does not have a higher chance, but it will hurt your chance?
I am lost.</p>
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I understand what you mean. However, my question has changed (now). I’m asking how the applications compare and overall chance changes/differences. If his GPA negatively impacts my chances, then my ECs/essays/whatnot should, relatively, affect his, right?
Huh, I’m coming off as condescending to my friend, or something. I know it’s unlikely but I still hope we’re both accepted.</p>
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<p>It is perfectly fine to use this as a discussion forum.</p>
<p>Wait, I wanted to respond to your question!
But my browser refreshed, and it is gone. :(</p>
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<p>Which fallacy?</p>
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<p>A does not necessarily have a higher chance, but A will necessarily hurt your chance, yes.</p>
<p>There is a box.
The upper side belongs to person A.
The lower side ´belongs to person B.</p>
<p>A says, everything that B says is wrong. B says, everything that A says is true.</p>
<p>Who is correct?</p>
<p>That is a logical fallacy.</p>
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I still do not understand how A will necessarily hurt your chances.
Please explain.</p>
<p>Jimmy797- Are we clear now?</p>
<p>PS: I am going to sleep now. Thank you for all your meaningful insights!</p>
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<p>I don’t understand the relevance of the analogy.</p>
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<p>Which logical fallacy? I’m looking for a name.</p>
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<p>This is what I have been doing for most of the last couple-dozen posts. :)</p>
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<p>Good night. I am anxious to hear about this logical fallacy that I am currently unaware of.</p>
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I appreciate the PM but no, I don’t exactly understand :)</p>
<p>Again, for the last time (since I still fail to see an actual answer to my question), am I correct in assuming that this is double-edged? As in: his GPA negatively impacts me, my higher SATs do the same to him?
This sucks.</p>
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<p>Because the SAT is less of a contextual thing than GPA, I don’t believe that your SAT score will negatively impact him simply because you come from the same high school. </p>
<p>It is best to not focus on your competition, though. On the whole, applicants are evaluated individually, even though the holistic approach entails that comparisons will be made in the interest of establishing context.</p>
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Well I sure hope that a marginal increase in GPA won’t overshadow the rest of the applications. In our individual cases, my SAT scores should help me, and GPA hurt me, and for my friend, the opposite. If you look at it as “pitting against each other” we’re probably the same on paper. Good luck to admissions officers deciding which to accept (if it comes down to a choice) :)</p>
<p>I’m under the impression that colleges may have a certain limit for acceptees from a certain country. In that case, isn’t it likely that a choice might be made from the applicants from the country? Or am I completely wrong on this front? [If I’m right this would kind of negate your “don’t focus on the competition” thing though.]</p>
<p>There are no official quotas. I emphasize the word official, though (I speculate that there are unofficial, somewhat flexible goals for how many students are accepted from each region).</p>
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<p>I don’t see it in that way, unless focusing on the competition will help you to improve your application.</p>
<p>I was more referring to the unofficial quotas. At any rate, thank you.
Edit: Do you think an increase of 600->660/700 is possible between now and October on the CR section, assuming a few days a week studying?
Can’t see how it would, aside from my raising my GPA to a 4.0 next year, something I intended to do regardless. 
Still, it makes competition an important factor, but not one that I can do anything about.</p>
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<p>Yes. (This is my typical answer to questions about whether a given improvement is possible, as long as it is reasonable. :))</p>
<p>Silverturtle, do you think there is any correlation between AP English Language and SAT Critical Reading? In other words, is there a SAT score range that accompanies a certain AP grade? And how would you rate the relative difficulty of the two multiple choice sections. Because I scored a 5 on AP English but I got a 680 in CR. Did I just have a bad CR day? lol</p>
<p>^ There is certainly an at-least-modest positive correlation. I haven’t taken either of the AP English tests, so I can’t comment specifically about conversions or relative difficulties. Perhaps you should start a thread in the AP forum asking for people’s thoughts and their experiences with how the scores matched up.</p>
<p>Thanks for the suggestion. Will do!</p>