So...is the economy getting better?

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<p>Actually… I agree with you BCEagle91…</p>

<p>Your explanation about programming is probably why things are a mess now.</p>

<p>Where are the stock orders going? </p>

<p>[37%</a> of U.S. Equities Trading Executed Out of Exchanges: TABB Group](<a href=“http://www.securitiestechnologymonitor.com/news/TABB-Equities-Trading-Dark-30332-1.html?pg=1]37%”>http://www.securitiestechnologymonitor.com/news/TABB-Equities-Trading-Dark-30332-1.html?pg=1)</p>

<p>"Historically, trading desks were able to match buying and selling interest received concurrently on the desk. As technology now allows messages to be sent and responded to in microseconds, trading desks can send out messages to solicit the other side of the trade. If an order can’t be found directly, it then moves into the firm’s dark pool. If still unable to be matched, the dark pool sends messages to a wider array of market participants to trade. If still unexecuted, the order is sent to other dark pools that message a wider group of traders. If by the time the order went through two or three different dark pools and messaging cycles and the order remained unexecuted, it would then go to the exchanges. This all occurs in a fraction of a second, all managed by a series of electronic routing engines.</p>

<p>Exchanges, in this day and age, only get orders that virtually nobody wants, according to the commentary."</p>

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<p>“What’s my wish? No taxes on investments at all.”</p>

<p>That is not my wish.</p>

<p>I do not keep very old tax returns…but then again…i don’t keep much of anything anymore. :)</p>

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<p>“Actually…if you use different accounts…the wash sales rules still apply…”</p>

<p>It would be pretty difficult to track through a different taxpayer id as long as the k1 is not designated to the beneficiary. The trust is written so that I can either keep everything in the trust or pay it to the beneficiary - me.</p>

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<p>Ok…</p>

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<p>Ok…I want to know in advance where the stock market is going…</p>

<p>The S&P broke its 50 day moving average…</p>

<p>Mean anything?</p>

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<p>Short-term down, intermediate term is okay.</p>

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<p>It means we’re going to 1340 - if it bounces off that it will probably go back up. Of course this is all based on technicals which are largely bs.</p>

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<p>Sounds like you guys are saying the same thing…but doct thinks he is full of ssss. :)</p>

<p>So doct…no shorting of puts in the broad indexes this week?</p>

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<p>This what all the talking heads are saying. Of course these same guys at least a week ago said that if we failed to hold 1370, we’re going down to at least 1340. These same folks pointed out that today selling pressure increased when it broke through the 1370 level - everybody looks at the same things and thus behave the same way.</p>

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<p>Yeah…</p>

<p>And then some of these talking heads call themselves Doc and Judge.</p>

<p>Kind if insulting to real doctors and judges. Actually…not kind of it is insulting…It is insulting.</p>

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<p>Beware the Buffett Rule… duh dadad dah</p>

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<p>That’s bs…</p>

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<p>“So doct…no shorting of puts in the broad indexes this week?”</p>

<p>Unfortunately yes - iwm at 78, spy at 134 and 135 (forgot I had this when I sold the 134 put today). I may have to roll them out to next week</p>

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<p>I don’t really like trades that do poorly if my thinking is correct. :)</p>

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<p>Doct…what was the premium on those IWMs? </p>

<p>0.15 to 0.20?</p>

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<p>In the words of the famous stock market sage, Guy Adami: “Price is truth”, so its irrelevant what you anybody thinks especially if you’re losing money.</p>

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<p>What do you know:</p>

<p>[Top</a> Earners Pay Higher Tax Rates Even Without Buffett Rule](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/top-earners-pay-higher-tax-rates-even-without-buffett-rule/2012/04/10/gIQAuge48S_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop]Top”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/top-earners-pay-higher-tax-rates-even-without-buffett-rule/2012/04/10/gIQAuge48S_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop)</p>

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<p>Well I for one am glad that I pay 15% on dividends because I know with this I’m creating lots of jobs.</p>

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<p>Lol…</p>

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<p>Turbo Tax calculates it for me and this year we paid at a higher tax rate than Mitt Romney will…without his millions in income, LOL. We’ll put in a “Buffet Rule,” and before you know it, the rule will pick up all sorts of people it wasn’t meant to apply to–just like that drat AMT.</p>