So many Ivy 2025 verbal commits what is going on?

Same, I have yet to hear it’s even being considered in the recruiting decisions. Which is a separate issue, IMO, of coaches requiring a certain test score. Meaning, I have not heard a coach who requires a certain test score say that AI is the reason.

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This is my first (and only) Ivy recruiting rodeo, but it seemed to have changed partway through last school year, with coaches (at HYP Ivy, not at 2 other ivies, notably) suddenly saying now kids had to take standardized tests, when previously it was a clear no, you can go test optional. I got the idea that they don’t use all of the recruits test scores for the AI. Also, I know it is a thing because one of the coaches at the school S24 committed to mentioned that the AI number for each sport at that school is something that is a bit of a secret - lacrosse doesn’t know soccer’s AI, etc.

At least one of those schools believes test have some value, even if they don’t require it. Maybe they decided it was needed for better context? Did they give you any kind of target?

I am going to pass on the discussion about AI. I think it deserves its own thread so that we can focus on OPs question.

Most of the Ivy League track and field programs are hosting HS class of 24 recruits now and for the next few weeks. The goal is to get commitments in time for early decision/early action applications. Some XC/TF recruits have committed already, but most choose not to reveal their decision until they have the likely letter in hand–which only comes after the acceptance. I think the vast majority of Ivy League XC/TF slots for HS class of 2024 are solidified in the next 5 weeks or so.

This is a good time for your daughter to reach out to coaches and get a conversation going. Communication might be a little slow at this point as they try to nail down the recruiting class before her.

Other sports commit much earlier. I am always a little amazed at how many people make their commitment public before the likely letter, but everyone needs to make their own decision.

I agree with your post except for this part. The Likely Letter come before the acceptance. Hence the nickname, as in “likely to be accepted”.

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They probably meant after submitting the application.

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yes. you are correct. I meant application.


Yes, they did. If you were over 1500 / 34 on your first test, no worries at all. If not, it seems, from discussions with other recruits, the number varied per kid and how well they thought they could do based on initial test, and the (sports!) skill level of the recruit, and the recruit’s UW GPA.

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I agree, it feels like a recent thing. In my D’s sport I know of a couple of late 24 cycle conversations happening now at a couple of Ivy’s where the kids have been told that they need to hit certain SAT numbers to be considered. The kids who got offers last fall and in the spring didn’t have score requirements as part of the conversation.


Theoretically you aren’t safe until you get the LL, or the official admit in mid December.

HOWEVER, in practice it works pretty similar to other D1 recruiting (pre-NLI signing). There are verbal commitments on both sides. And most are honored, but none are binding. The main difference is needing to do a pre-read and get the blessing of the admissions office. Most of the kids I am familiar with didn’t publish their “commitment” until after they had the pre-read. My son did, but his future coach said that he was a slam dunk to pass the pre-read and in his case it was just a formality. At Stanford (not an Ivy but a place you need to get by admissions not just the coach) he was told he was 70/30 to get in. If he went that route, he would have held off making his commitment public until he had the blessing of admissions.

He didn’t use the right language of “committing to the process” when he announced his commitment on Twitter. He then got a letter from both his future school and the Ivy League, reminding him that coaches could not offer spots and while he may in his own mind be committed, ultimately admissions would decide if he was admitted or not. I don’t remember exactly what it said, but the verbiage was identical in both letters.