<p>There’s a difference between citizenship and eligibility to run for president. As naturalized citizens, H and I are eligible to vote but not to run for president. What is the eligibility of those born abroad to US citizens?</p>
<p>The constitutional distinction is between citizenship through facts of birth (NOT place of birth) and naturalization after having some previous citizenship. My wife is plainly ineligible to be President (and is also not interested in the job), but my claim would be that our third son is a “natural born citizen” in the constitutional sense because he has been a United States citizen (by a Congressional statute related to Americans who have children overseas rather than by the Constitution) ever since he was born, and has never had any other claim to citizenship anywhere. The same applies to John McCain.</p>
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<pre><code> You are asking about a natural born U.S. citizen and all natural born
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<p>U.S. citizens are eligible to run for President–at least on the that point.
You could be born in the space shuttle–if your two parents U.S. citizens,
then so are you. </p>
<p>Those born abroad to U.S. citizens are U.S. citizens. They get a birth
certificate from wherever and a State Department document, which they
will need to get a U.S. passport so they can go home and run for President.</p>
<p>No, John McCain’s case is a bit different insofar as he was born on a US navy base in the Panama Canal Zone (thus he was born on American soil).</p>
<p>I found this via google. The article is from Feb. 29 2008, suggesting that the issue is by no means laid to rest. Note that the article mentions only children of military personnel. What about children of non-military families?</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/us/politics/29mccain.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/29/us/politics/29mccain.html</a></p>
<p>Yeah, I saw the New York Times article too when I was Googling last night, but the law professor who thinks there is even a scintilla of doubt about the eligibility of McCain (and, by extension, my son) is crazy. I would bet SERIOUS money that any United States Supreme Court of any era or composition would look at the plain language of the Constitution and hold that McCain is eligible, solely because of his parentage, just as my son would be eligible, solely because of his parentage. If the issue isn’t litigated sooner, maybe it can be litigated when my son announces his run for the presidency. :)</p>
<p>“when said politician gets a felon convicted of politcal corruption to buy half of his house for him?”</p>
<p>You might want to check the facts. Rezko wasn’t involved in the house purchase.</p>
<p>"In June 2005, Obama and Rezko purchased adjoining parcels in Kenwood. The state’s junior senator paid $1.65 million for a Georgian revival mansion, while Rezko paid $625,000 for the adjacent, undeveloped lot. Both closed on their properties on the same day. </p>
<p>Last January, aiming to increase the size of his sideyard, Obama paid Rezko $104,500 for a strip of his land. </p>
<p>It was simply not good enough that I paid above the appraised value for the strip of land that he sold me."</p>
<p>[Obama</a> on Rezko deal: It was a mistake :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Politics](<a href=“http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article]Obama”>http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article)</p>
<p>I did not hear or read and still have not heard or read anything about this birth certificate rumor other than on CC! I don’t get any of these emails either. Maybe CC should be added to that rumor website. :)</p>
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<p>You’ve been hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Somebody’s done the okie doke.</p>
<p>It’s all the same property! It’s one big house on one big lot, surrounded by one big brick and iron fence. The “adjoining parcel” that Rezko bought is Obama side yard and his driveway. The only acccess to it from Obama’s “parcel”. The property was subdivided so that Rezko could pay too much for his part and Obama get the full discount, thus lining a corrupt politician’s pocket with laundered money from a convicted felon.</p>
<p>When Obama started running for President, they realized this deal stunk like high heaven. They wanted to put a fence along the so-called property line so they could claim these were “adjoining lots”. The only problem is that fence ran smack dab down the middle of Obama’s driveway. That’s why Rezko had to “sell a strip of land” to Obama – so they could put the fence NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY.</p>
<p>The fence is a joke. The only entrance to Rezko’a “adjoining property” is a gate in the new fence they built linking Obama’s yard and Rezko’s yard. There isn’t even a gate from the street to Rezko’s property.</p>
<p>The Okie Doke. Bamboozled. Hoodwinked by a typical Chicago politician.</p>
<p>Responding to marite #105 and tokenadult on eligibility of children of
military personnel and not the other nonsense. Why pass a redundant law?</p>
<p>Now to further confuse everyone, if a baby is born abroad to a U.S.
citizen and a non U.S. citizen, then the birth country’s law may come into
play. </p>
<p>As far as I know, McCain’s parents were both U.S. citizens. Of course,
sometimes U.S. servicemen marry foreign women or sire children with them.
U.S. servicewomen may do something similar. </p>
<p>Looking forward to Tokenadult Jr’s campaign for president.</p>
<p>“I don’t get any of these emails either.”</p>
<p>Count yourself lucky! :)</p>
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<p>Which law are you referring to? There hasn’t been any new law on this issue for a long time. There was a Senate resolution this year (which does NOT have the force of Congressional statute) expressing the political sense that members of both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party think their Senate colleague John McCain is constitutionally eligible to run for president. That is called wearing belts and suspenders to avoid political controversy. Are you referring to something else?</p>
<p>I am not a fan of Obama but I think he is legal to run for president. If the gop thought for one minute he wasn’t they would already be in court fighting about it.</p>
<p>Here’s some more stuff about Obama’s house purchase:</p>
<p>[ArchPundit</a> Blog Archive Rezko Primer VI. House Purchase](<a href=“http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/24/rezko-primer-vi-house-purchase/]ArchPundit”>http://archpundit.com/blog/2008/01/24/rezko-primer-vi-house-purchase/)</p>
<p>He’s admitted that it was a mistake to do this deal. Contrary to what’s in post 109, the lot had already been subdivided into two parts before Obama saw it, and there was an option on the undeveloped part. I haven’t found that anybody has refuted what Obama said about that to the Trib back in 2006. It’s pretty clear that Rezko was looking at this as an opportunity to get on Obama’s good side, that therefore the deal has a “whiff” about it. But it’s pretty slim pickins if this is all there is to suggest that Obama is corrupt.</p>
<p>Obama’s birth certificate is up on the daily kos website. (I’m not supposed to link.) Having recently obtained a death certificate from Hawaii, I can say that the color of the paper, seal, etc., look legit to me. </p>
<p>Shows father as African. No religion listed. Place of birth is Honolulu. First name is not Barry. In other words, all the rumors are untrue.</p>
<p>^^Thank you, Jonri. Now I can return to my son’s groundwork to run for president.
He’s starting near Hollywood. So far so good…</p>
<p>Even I am disappointed by this.</p>
<p>Thanks, jonri.</p>
<p>Every rumor that gets discredited makes all subsequent rumors less credible.</p>
<p>I thought it was always clear that Barry was a nickname for Barack. I don’t remember any reliable claim that Barry was his real name. He decided in college that he wanted to be called Barack. I have also never heard any credible claim that the property was divided after the purchase.</p>