yes magentron - We looked at and visited Montana State, Boise State, University of Utah, University of Wyoming. I liked Montana State the best, and it was my son’s "super safety’ school for engineering. Son had a friend who did go and absolutely loves it. and is managing just fine in engineering - stats wise probably on par with your son. My son had plenty of schools on his list and we’re in the engineering powerhouse midwest so did not ‘drift’ into Oregon or Washington or even Idaho when researching options to the Michigan engineering programs.