<p>I don’t think UM realizes the commitment of sports. Tons of kids at my school had little to no ECs, but like a 3.7-3.8 GPA, and got in. I second the advice. It’s not a holistic application, that’s just an excuse used for affirmative action. If you aren’t a minority, you need that high GPA to get in.</p>
<p>A2Wolves, on a more positive note, Business Week just released their first ever ranking of undergraduate business schools and Indiana was ranked #10, ahead of Cal, Cornell, and Georgetown. Michigan was #6.</p>
<p>After reading this forum it looks like the 2010 class is kinda bent out of shape regarding peoples races and their acceptance. </p>
<p>I got in like 2 months ago and sent in the deposit yesterday after getting into Wake Forest and Carnegie Mellon I’m also on the UNC waitlist. However, if this campus is anything like I’ve seen in the forum being an African American male UofM may not be the best place for me.</p>
<p>If I had to guess, those are the people that didn’t get in, rather than the ones who did.</p>
<p>Kofanis, Michigan is a great place for all races and nationalities. Take it from an Arab. I had a great time at Michigan.</p>
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GoBlueAlumMom, really? I thought as club status they can’t recruit. Or are you saying they had no influence with the Admissions Dept., which I guess is what they say on their web site.</p>
<p>I think that one was filed under ‘sarcasm’, WS17.</p>
<p>No Ahab, I wasn’t being sarcastic so no need to draw erroneous conclusions. My son attended the head coach’s summer training camp, had a recruiting meeting, submitted game films, the usual. Michigan LAX has varsity club status and is financially supported by the university. However, it is not a scholarship awarding entity. They are a highly competitive, championship winning team and are always looking for new players to fill open positions. The coach certainly doesn’t have the influence with admissions as that of a Lloyd Carr-type of coach, but he does a very good job of keeping in touch with potential recruits throughout the admissions process as he did with my son.</p>
<p>The coaches at UofM have no say in admissions whatsoever. UofM’s lax team is classified as a varsity club status, and even if it is financially supported by Umich, the players have to pay a lot of money to play.</p>
<p>I know many people that play/played on the team, and I’ve heard mixed feelings about the team.</p>
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Oh sure…the football program is stacked with blue-chip athletes with top-notch academic stats. So that’s how they manage to pull off a winning season year-after-year. Too funny…
Have you played on this team yourself? Every athletic team has certain players with “mixed feelings” or complaints about a coach, training schedule/regimen, playing time, position, whatever. Goes with the territory.</p>
<p>I have to agree with GoBlueAlumMom. Football and Basketball recruits often have sub 3.0 GPAs and sub 25 ACT/1100 SAT scores. Some have sub 2.5 GPAs and sub 20 ACT/900 SAT scores. Hockey is pretty laxed too.</p>
<p>There are tons of races on campus. It’s just that the people who aren’t minorities feel like they weren’t fairly treated in admissions when compared to minorities. But that’s life for you, it isn’t fair, and you have to move on. Michigan is a great place.</p>
<p>And anyone to say that “coaches don’t have an influence in admissions”, that’s completely ridiculous. Nearly everyone on the Football team, Hockey team, Basketball team, Baseball team, and even some other teams, have been given “exemptions” from admissions guidelines. If you are recruited, you are automatically in regardless of their grades/test scores.</p>
<p>this is why D1 college athletics is stupid, u get a bunch of guys who barely passed high school to come to college and they are praised and talked about like kings. and high school students come to michigan and go “I love Michigan because of the great athletic programs at Michigan!” </p>
<p>Everything is wrong with Affirmative Action, I’m just waiting for the day I can become a supreme court justice and outlaw it once and for all.</p>
<p>I sure hope we don’t have to wait that long. Affirmative Action is the single most racist program we have in the United States…</p>
<p>What happened to being judged based on the “content of your chracter” and not “the color of your skin”</p>
<p>I think i’ll let this debate stay one-sided out of fear of deviating from the original thread.</p>
<p>Out of State
GPA: 4.0/4.0
SAT: 1530
SAT Writing: 760
ACT: 34
I volunteered, played sports, showed leadershıp, etc.
Just a note on the race thing from before:
There are a lot of racial cliques at Michigan. So, despite the fact that we are <diverse> by virtue of statistics, not as many people as one would assume venture out to befriend people of different races. I’m not trying to say that everyone at UMich is racist or anything. In fact, at the risk of sounding discrimatory, I have found that people from minority groups are the ones who are generally more likely to have social groups within their race. This is simply something to think about-and only what my experience has been.
Oh and just because I can’t resist-I am a conservative but Affirmative Action is a much more complex issue than simply a matter of <reverse discrimimation=“”>. It shouldn’t be broken down to a matter of judging people on the content of their character and not the color of their skin.</reverse></diverse></p>
<p>how nice of you to join us once again Beth. I’m glad we make a good 4 am hobby.</p>
<p>Unfortunately you have to have A LOT more character growing up in Harlem than growing up in some WASP suburb.</p>
<p>How do you define character, jazzman? If you’re talking about the moral substance of an individual, I think you’ll find just as much in the suburbs as you will in Harlem, or anywhere else in the world for that matter.</p>
<p>What I meant was that having a 3.3 GPA in coming from Harlem is representative of doing the same amount of work that some rich kid did in suburbia to get a 3.8.</p>
<p>Now that having been said, i dont think its a matter of race, there are white kids in harlem and other races in the suburbs, but, i think majority wise its pretty clear what the demographics are. I dont think affirmative action is really saying that JUST because you are african american you get into college. I think it is says that universities recognize that equal amounts of work may lead to different levels of success depending on the social and econmic conditions present.</p>