Stuck on 1968

[tsdad]

<p>Xiggi:</p>

<p>Das Kapital adorns educators’ nightstands? Come on. The statement doesn’t make any sense of its face, and not only because there is no way you could know. Let’s see what professors are we talking about–medical doctors, business professors, scientists, engineers almost of who are funded by the government, military, and/or big business? Spanish professors? Professors of East Asian Languages? Who for G-d’s sake? Tell me. I want names.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>And WHY are you stunned, DS?</p>

[dstark]

<p>Xiggi, in life, we get 2 choices. </p>

<ol>
<li><p>To try and figure out what is really happening.</p></li>
<li><p>To be an idealogue.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>You have chosen 2.</p>

<p>It’s a shame.</p>

<p>And before you go off on me, I have been a registered Republican for 26 years. I still am; although, I no longer believe in the ideas of the party.</p>

<p>So go back to 1 and 2.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>TSDad, you are working for a very prestigious university and have access to all kind of information about your schools and others. In you estimation, how many colleges are currently offering classes on Marxism? In your estimation, how many professors view themselves as Folk Marxists? </p>

<p>Should I assume that your answer is very few. To which, if it were true, I would say … thank G-D!</p>

<p>Names? Here’s one for you … Hardt!</p>

<p>His bio: <a href=“Sorry, can't handle your request: https://fds.duke.edu/db/aas/Romance/faculty/hardt[/url]”>Sorry, can't handle your request: https://fds.duke.edu/db/aas/Romance/faculty/hardt&amp;lt;/a&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;

<p>One analysis: <a href=“http://observer.guardian.co.uk/global/story/0,10786,524215,00.html[/url]”>Empire hits back | Books | The Guardian;

<p>Another viewpoint:

Hardt teamed up with Antonio Negri, an Italian philosopher and suspected terrorist mastermind serving a 13-year prison sentence in Rome, to write the book “Empire,” a Marxist treatise on globalization published in 2000 with rave reviews from academia. Hardt was quickly offered a professorship and tenure at Duke, and now teaches the Marxism & Society program at the university with Duke professor Fredric Jameson, the openly Communist literature department chair at Duke who is widely regarded as America’s foremost Marxist literary critic and writer.

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[xiggi]

<p>“And before you go off on me”</p>

<p>Could you please point out where and when I would have done such thing? </p>

<p>Idealoguely Yours.</p>

[dstark]

<p>It’s a shame. A waste of intelligence.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>DS, and WHY is it a shame or waste of intelligence? Drop the generalities and explain your puzzlement in a less abstract form.</p>

[Mudder_s_Mudder]

<p>“When I read the title of the original post, I thought this was going to be a thread about how we’re bogged down in an ill-advised war overseas.”</p>

<p>Spoonyj, I OTOH was expecting a travelogue on either (Boulder) Colorado or (Berkeley) California. Then I got to “MIT” and my mind leapt: OMG! They DID snag a time traveler!</p>

<p><a href=“http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/[/url]”>http://web.mit.edu/adorai/timetraveler/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>No, wait. It was the econ, not physics, dept. Dang.</p>

[dstark]

<p>You’re not thinking. You’re not seeing.</p>

<p>Who owns NBC?</p>

[tsdad]

<p>Xiggi:</p>

<p>

TSDad, you are working for a very prestigious university and have access to all kind of information about your schools and others. In you estimation, how many colleges are currently offering classes on Marxism? In your estimation, how many professors view themselves as Folk Marxists?

</p>

<p>The following is taken from a plaque located on the front entrance of Bascom Hall, UW’s main administration building.</p>

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Whatever maybe the limitations which trammel inquery elsewhere, we believe that the great State University of Wisconsin should ever encourage that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing by which alone the truth can be found. </p>

<p>Taken from a report of the Board of Regents in 1894.

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<p>I don’t know people’s beliefs. It’s not important. Can they teach? Are they productive scholars? Are they good University citizens? That’s what matters at the

great State University of Wisconsin.

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[reasonabledad]

<p>Xiggi ~ keep making your points. don’t let the argumentum ad honinem attacks divert you!</p>

[dstark]

<p>Xiggi, just for you.</p>

<p><a href=“Columbia Journalism Review”>Columbia Journalism Review;

<p>Not too many liberal-commie organizations.</p>

<p>He who owns rules.</p>

[fundingfather]

<p>“Who own’s NBC?”</p>

<p>Why does that matter? The important thing from a political perspective is which way they lean. One way to quantify that is to look at their political donations which for the 2000/20002 election cycle were 77% Democratic. Of course then you have CBS/Viacom at 81% Democratic and AOL/Time Warner (CNN) at 63% Democratic. Disney (ABC) seems the most fair and balanced of them all at 55% Democratic (must be the mouse is a big Republican to offset the broadcasting arm). <a href=“http://www.capitaleye.org/mediacontribs.6.2.03.asp[/url]”>http://www.capitaleye.org/mediacontribs.6.2.03.asp&lt;/a&gt;
So, what was that about ownership again?</p>

[dstark]

<p>26 million bucks. That’s a rounding error for GE.</p>

[tsdad]

<p>copying the quote above, and it’s 50 degrees and sunny, which is astounding weather for this time of year in Madison. I see the Chancellor in his sweater, smoking a cigarette. Someone comes up to him and says “John it’s like March out.” And the Chancellor says, “No. It’s like May.”</p>

<p>And with that I’m off to Chicago to meet up with my wife, one of the tasty morsels from 1968.</p>

[FountainSiren]

<p>

Not too many liberal-commie organizations.</p>

<p>He who owns rules.

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<p>Hey…sounds familiar. Not 1968, but 1848:</p>

<p>

The process, therefore, that clears the way for the capitalist system, can be none other than the process which takes away from the labourer the possession of his means of production; a process that transforms, on the one hand, the social means of subsistence and of production into capital, on the other, the immediate producers into wage-labourers. The so-called primitive accumulation, therefore, is nothing else than the historical process of divorcing the producer from the means of production. It appears as primitive, because it forms the pre-historic stage of capital and of the mode of production corresponding with it.
Karl Marx
Capital Volume One </p>

<p>Part VIII:
Primitive Accumulation </p>

<p>CHAPTER TWENTY-SIX:
THE SECRET OF PRIMITIVE ACCUMULATION

<a href=“MECW File Not Found”>MECW File Not Found;

[dstark]

<p>tsdad, have a good time.</p>

[xiggi]

<p>DS, while “who has the gold makes the rules” is true, you cannot overlook the “who is employed writes and speaks.” </p>

<p>Does the owner(s) of CBS necessarily share the political views of Rather and Rooney? Could it be that the owners of CBS, ABC, and NBC celebrated the news of the latest presidential elections … the same news that caused such visible pain and deep agony for the news anchors to deliver? How can you forget the dialogue of Dan Rather and Ed Bradley about the statistical chances for the Ohio results to be reversed. Facing the inevitable, Rather challenged Bradley’s mastery of math and declared him a non-expert. The whole nation heard Bradley’s answer “Well, I taught math” which was entirely wasted on the bias-stricken good ol’ Dan. </p>

<p>Ownership does not always equate to censorship.</p>

[dstark]

<p>Do we have a liberal media because of the Dan Rather types?</p>

<p>Or is there a different agenda based on what GE, Disney, Fox, etc. want?</p>

<p>Do you really think GE supports a liberal agenda?</p>

<p>Are we really engulfed with a liberal agenda, or are we engulfed with a “corporate agenda”?</p>

<p>Who has the power?</p>

[michuncle]

<p>Let’s turn this argument around: Conservatives in 1968</p>

<p>Your biggest international markets and trading partners will be: Communist China, Russia and India.
Your CEO’s will fly off to Moscow and Peking to suck up to Communists or former Communists.
Conservatives will forsake state rights, small government and fiscal responsibility
Conservatives will believe that deficits don’t matter.
Conservatives will welcome an Imperial presidency.</p>