<p>binx-</p>
<p>Well said. I did the same thing you did to find Ohio State’s listing of the freshman profile, since it seemed like Miami’s freshman profile on the website was the source for all the stats on Miami and I wanted to compare apples to apples. The part that was interesting to me was also how the stats were about “admitted” then at the very bottom there was one sentence, something like “of the above statistics, xyz actually enrolled.” And on Ohio State’s website I couldn’t find the applied number, so it was a little tricky finding out the % admitted, yield, etc. Glad he cleared that up with the links to common data. Although for both schools’ common data, there appears to be interesting things to look at. For example, both schools require either SAT or ACT tests for applications, however the number of those scores submitted are way less than what is reported as applied. Retention rates seem pretty close to me: 90% for Miami and 92% for Ohio State. I noticed OSU requires less Science and Social Studies in high school from their applicants and the six-year grad rate is 66% whereas Miami’s is 80%.</p>
<p>Statistics do not trump anything for me anyway(you know we kool-aid drinkers just look at things thru our red & white glasses), anyone who has taken a half-way decent class in statistics knows that statistics can be manipulated as well as interpreted in a variety of ways. FACT is, as you have stated so clearly before, for some reason (perhaps the vast right-wing conspiracy of all those Christians running my alma mater) the VAST overwelming majority of alumni are completely rabid about their loyalty to Miami and loved their time there, and as sh60614 said, “where there is smoke there’s got to be fire.” That being said, the OP asked about the student body as far as snootiness. I don’t care how you look at statistics, they are NEVER going to tell anyone about the personalities, attitudes or especially the souls of the people they represent. Hence, VISIT, VISIT, VISIT…ANYWHERE you are considering attending.</p>
<p>I really hope that he is not done posting here (and highly doubt he is, I don’t believe he will be able to resist) as he just further illustrates the great differences between Ohio State U & Miami. And thank the Lord for those differences, quite frankly the two schools serve two different types of students and I can’t see either of them being totally happy at each others’ schools. A prospect that does not bother me in the least. The only one that seems to have a problem with the two schools being different is our Ohio State friend.</p>
<p>BTW- 20+ years ago when I attended Miami, I was the first one to go to college in my family, I am white and came from a very middle-income family. My Miami degree did VERY well by me and I credit it with 80% of the knowledge in running my businesses and thus it has been a huge factor in my success. Since sh60614 is seemingly fond of anecdotal evidence, here is mine: Of the hundreds of Miami students I have known and know, never has a single one of them been unhappy with the quality of education and they all would attend there again if they had it to do over. Maybe THAT is why so many children of alumni attend today. Although I concede it COULD be that some just want their children surrounded by wealthy children who are white, Christian, and republican because of course that’s what one really needs to be successful in life, make a lot of money and support all the social programs in the world. [yes, in case there is any question, I AM being sarcastic 
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