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<p>[Huguely</a> threatened to kill Love three days before incident ? USATODAY.com](<a href=“http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/lacrosse/story/2012-02-08/Virginia-lacrosse-murder-trial/53011302/1]Huguely”>http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/lacrosse/story/2012-02-08/Virginia-lacrosse-murder-trial/53011302/1)</p>
<p>Opening arguments. </p>
<p>[George</a> Huguely Lawyer Seeks Involuntary Manslaughter Charge in Lacrosse Murder Trial - ABC News](<a href=“Lacrosse Murder Defense: Yeardley Love's Death Was An Accident - ABC News”>Lacrosse Murder Defense: Yeardley Love's Death Was An Accident - ABC News)</p>
<p>Just remember. Huguely’s family is very wealthy and they will pay whatever it costs to get their son convicted of a lesser charge. Let’s see what money will buy.</p>
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<p>OMG. I can only imagine what lacrosse players think about that.</p>
<p>In the new pictures, we can see what he looks like without the alcohol and steroids.</p>
<p>^^I thought the same exact thing. Ugh!</p>
<p>Looks like the defense will be making him look like a stupid jock, to get the manslaughter charge. They’re trying to relate to the jury pool with a comment like that.^</p>
<p>Steroids? I had forgotten that angle.</p>
<p>I do think that it is unconscionable to call this a “lacrosse” murder. It is about a young man who was a loose cannon - it could have been anyone with an alcohol infused temper who was angry with his (or her) ex. Being on a team, being in a frat, etc, etc does not a murderer make.</p>
<p>And, Cartera, I guess you’ve never seen a kid who had been working out thorough college, a couple of years after. They either get “soft” and put on weight, or look like an average kid. Shame on you for bringing up steroids.</p>
<p>I think the reason so many people refer to it as the lacrosse murder is because they were both lacrosse players at the same school, and most of their mutual social circles were co-players on the lacrosse team.</p>
<p>People would be saying the same thing if it were similar swim team, basketball team, cheerleaders, etc. Their social circle and teams are how they met each other and spent their time together, for the most part.</p>
<p>still hope he gets the chair</p>
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<p>Oh I’m sorry. I forgot to mention the cocaine. My bad. </p>
<p>I’m certainly not the first person to suggest that steroid use may have been a trigger in this case. </p>
<p>[College</a> Lacrosse Players Use the Most Drugs? NCAA Report Says So Stories Baltimore Fishbowl](<a href=“http://www.baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/college-lacrosse-players-use-the-most-drugs--ncaa-report-says-so/]College”>http://www.baltimorefishbowl.com/stories/college-lacrosse-players-use-the-most-drugs--ncaa-report-says-so/)</p>
<p>I’m not sure that steroids were necessarily the cause…altho they may have been involved.</p>
<p>I think this was a spoiled young man who was used to getting what he wanted and he couldn’t stand the fact that his ex-G was with another guy. We’ve seen these stories before…steroids aren’t necessary for this kind of ugliness to happen.</p>
<p>You’re certainly right that this could happen without steroids, but it’s probably pretty safe to say there was more involved over a period of time than just alcohol. To the comment about calling this the “lacrosse murder” I think the very insular, elite and unique lacrosse culture did factor in.</p>
<p>Wow - just wow. </p>
<p>Google “murder ex” and see what you come up with.</p>
<p>Replace the word lacrosse in your last sentence with fraternity, country club, private school, professional athlete, rock star, Hollywood… Take out the word elite and replace lacrosse with any social group, strata, etc.</p>
<p>This kind of stereotyping is very dangerous. </p>
<p>Mom2collegekids, you said it very well.</p>
<p>The lacrosse world is very small, especially at the elite college level.</p>
<p>I’ve had conversations with high school grads who were recruited by some of the top lacrosse college teams (D1); they are the first to admit the lacrosse culture (he was speaking for men’s teams) is, more than any other sport, more likely to cause its own self-destruction due to the over-the-top partying and use of drugs. And I say this as a HUGE Syracuse basketball fan, who I know has had their share of players out of control, and in trouble with the legal system.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks steroid use is not rampant in college athletics is not being at all realistic. Who knows if that was the case here, though.</p>
<p>Sounds like Huguely should have smoked more pot and left the other substances alone. Pot smokers are not known for violent rages. :rolleyes: </p>
<p>FWIW, it doesn’t sound to me as if he went there actually intending to kill her. If he intended to kill her, he could easily have finished the job before leaving. It sounds like their relationship was dysfunctional and out of control and he had a violent temper, perhaps fueled by substances. (It sounds as if she had a temper herself, if the purse-throwing thing is not a fabrication or exaggeration. I find it hard to control my temper at times, but I’ve never thrown something at someone.) Their relationship was obviously tempestuous, to say the least. That said, obviously she did not deserve to die, no matter what, and he was a serious assault/abuse incident waiting to happen. (I wonder if he had any history of violence directed at anyone but her…)</p>
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<p>The lacrosse culture is like no other. People who don’t live with it around them don’t understand it. Lacrosse is different because the women’s teams are just as competitive and under similar pressures and influences as the men. At many schools, like UVA, the teams party together, have known of or have known each other since they were in middle school and the code of silence is stronger than perhaps any other sport. The coaches and school administrations have historically not intervened enough. Several of my best friends have kids that play lacrosse at the elite level and they will tell you that coaches and administrators turn a blind eye to problems on a regular basis. The money involved makes it different too. Most of the top college players come from a handful of private schools. There are a few public schools that produce top players, but the best experience for public school kids comes from travel clubs and they require money and parents with time to be very involved. There are kid and parent rivalries from very early on and every parent knows where every player is applying to college and they are all competing with each other for a very limited number of slots at a very limited number of schools. I know people can name other sports like that, but this particular combination is unique. </p>
<p>Huguely had a history of violence. There is no way the coach didn’t know about it. They make it their business to know everything. I have not talked to a single parent of a college lacrosse player who does not think that his coach knew the details of every incident, including the one in Lexington when he was tasered and arrested for being combative towards a female police officer.</p>
<p>cartera is correct. I know one of Huguely’s teammates. He was Duke’s top recruit and then flipped to UVA when the Duke lacrosse incident happened (or, as it turned out, didn’t happen…). He is an EXTREMELY aggressive young man, as one would expect from his success at the sport. He hit one of my son’s prep school classmates so hard in a football game senior year of high school that my son’s classmate died. It was a legal hit, but it was a very hard hit… It was very tragic. The sport relies on aggression.</p>
<p>Huguely was quarterback of the Landon football team his senior year and was an All American lacrosse player. He never seemed to live up to his potential at UVA in lacrosse, which I’m sure was a source of consternation for him. He was literally Mr. Everything in high school so it’s hard to live up to that in college. Unfortunately, his father was likely part of the problem. I think he stewed in dysfunction for many years. His story is a sad one too. I think he was salvageable at some point, but he was surrounded by enablers.</p>