<p>Carter, I wasnt suprised, but the defense may change their negotiating position when their motion was denied.</p>
<p>I hope he is guilt of 1st degree murder. I am sick of women getting beat up with minimal consequences for men.</p>
<p>I can’t believe they thought there was any way that motion would be granted.</p>
<p>Carter, you may be right, but then that one of the defense attorneys claimed to be sick and got a delay???</p>
<p>I know. I just didn’t assume that she wasn’t really sick. I don’t know why a delay would benefit the defense, so soon after the prosecution rested. It leaves the jury to stew in the prosecution evidence. They had to have strategized from the beginning that this would be a 1st degree case. Unless there is a witness they can’t find or a piece of new evidence they are pursuing, I don’t know why a delay would help.</p>
<p>Interesting development. </p>
<p>[Murder</a> Trial Of Former Univ. Of Virginia Lacrosse Player Delayed Again CBS Baltimore]](<a href=“Defense: Couple Seen Holding Hands 1 Day Before Yeardley Love's Death - CBS Baltimore”>Defense: Couple Seen Holding Hands 1 Day Before Yeardley Love's Death - CBS Baltimore)</p>
<p>Maybe this is what the defense wanted the jury to have a weekend to think about.</p>
<p>Poetgrl: since when do protection orders protect? You read all the time about someone being murdered who had a protection order against the assailant. If someone is intent on “getting you”, no protection order is going to stop him/her. They can be pretty useless and I’d never feel safe just because I had one. I know better than that.</p>
<p>They do not always protect someone. However, you would be surprised by how often they actually do.</p>
<p>In fact, sometimes, the guy in question has no idea what he is doing is illegal until he is arrested and gets an order of protection in place. Also, they don’t simply put them in place, now, the way they used to. If the person in question was using substances, they are mandated to treatment. There are mandatory counseling hours.</p>
<p>In the case of a situation like this, it is highly likely it would have helped. In other cases, not really.</p>
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<p>Protective orders do not protect anyone from being assaulted. They protect the person from the next assault. After the first assault under a protective order, the person who violated the protective order gets locked up.</p>
<p>They don’t all get locked up and they don’t get locked up right away unless they violate it in front of the police. I can’t speak for all jurisdictions of course, but violation is usually a misdemeanor and probation is often given.</p>
<p>Also, after the person is arrested and arraigned, generally bail is set & s/he can post it & get out while awaiting trial or further proceedings. The system has its weaknesses, especially in protecting vulnerable victims from violent crime.</p>
<p>yes, there are definitely some states with stronger and some states with weaker laws in this regard. It’s true.</p>
<p>I believe, at this point, in more than half the states, they will arrest for domestic violence and threats, which are a misdemeanor for the first time, but add assault, like his choking, and it becomes a fifth degree felony. The laws need to be much stronger, but they are headed in the right direction.</p>
<p>In the meantime, in the case of people who are embarrassable, and too arrogant to realize this is a crime, simply being put in handcuffs and taken down to the police station is enough to get them to back off. It depends on the perpetrator. </p>
<p>At any rate, it’s all speculation in this case, and I’m sure he will do jail time for this murder.</p>
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<p>That is not true in most states. If you violate a protective order, it is contempt of court which means the alleged violator is immediately brought before the judge and he or she has to show cause why the judge shouldn’t like him or her up. Contempt does not have to occur before the police in order for the judge to put the person in jail.</p>
<p>Video evidence presented yesterday in court shows Ms. Love holding hands with Mr. Hugely the day before her death. The relationship was on and off, but it does not seem like in general she was afraid of him.</p>
<p>^^^^^Okay, but how is that relevant to whether or not he murdered her?</p>
<p>I think the video is only relevant as to Love would not have asked for order of protection – which I think was Mds point.</p>
<p>As to why defense introduced it, I can only hypothesize that love and huguely were involved in rough sex whatever. I am hoping that the jury pool is so sick of irresponsible kids peeing in the public, etc, that huguely gets the max.</p>
<p>The video could mitigate the “I should have killed you” threat.</p>
<p>Wow, how does anyone know whether the video of them holding hands is really shot on the day defense claimed it was, rather than earlier in their relationship, before it went south?</p>
<p>This case is so troubling on many levels & points out some of the weaknesses & limitations of our domestic violence protections on many levels. It also shows how very vulnerable people can be if someone is determined to attack.</p>
<p>The accused sounds like he has serious anger management issues, dating back to 2006 and probably earlier. If only he got the appropriate treatment back then.</p>
<p>I don’t think the video’s authenticity was questioned. What I question is, in front of friends of family, if he picked up her hand, what was she going to do? Allowing him to hold her hand could also indicate that she is afraid not to. These are the things the jury will, of course, discuss and they will bring their own experiences to the table when they interpret them.</p>
<p>I was referring to the thread topic of the protective order, thanks kayf.</p>
<p>According to the Baltimore Sun, the video presented in court was narrated by Huguely’s aunt, who had visited UVa with her family the day before. And I think it was security video, not one taken by someone in the group.</p>
<p>That must be pretty creepy, having visited with your family & seen the murder victim the day before your relative is charged with murdering her.</p>