<p>Vladenschlutte, every Sunday the NYT real estate section has a feature called “The Hunt” about someone in NYC looking for a place. Sometimes they are young people looking for their first rental, sometimes it’s old people looking to downsize, sometimes it’s a family looking for a large place. It’s educational if you happen to be in the NY market, because you see what’s available, what can go wrong, and how other people manage. This week, it happened to be about these people.</p>
<p>Okay. I didn’t realize that this was a thing.</p>
<p>My newspaper actually employs a guy who goes to restaurants, eats, and then writes an article about what he eats.</p>
<p>Regarding post 82…lots of newspapers do that! Many more used to, and stopped. </p>
<p>Our newspaper also has car reviews and some of what they review are very expensive cars. I like reading those too!</p>
<p>I know. I’m teasing Vlad. In a friendly way, I hope.</p>
<p>“My newspaper actually employs a guy who goes to restaurants, eats, and then writes an article about what he eats”</p>
<p>That’s crazy! I can see if he were a celebrity or something, but who cares what some guy eats? Besides, I bet a lot of people can’t afford the restaurants he dines in. He must think he’s above eating at Mickey D’s like the rest of us slobs.</p>
<p>(Well played, Hunt.)</p>
<p>Truthfully, I do sometimes get annoyed with the restaurant reviewer, because he often seems so disdainful or normal food, and is dismissive of perfectly good suburban restaurants that aren’t up to his downtown fine dining standards. And honestly, you can get that sensation often when reading the New York Times, and not just in the real estate section. As somebody noted upthread, it is aimed at pretty well-to-do people. I remember one ad in the magazine section that I thought epitomizes this: The picture showed a garbage can on a Manhattan street full of empty wine bottles–some expensive brand. The ad copy was “Too bad you weren’t invited.”</p>
<p>Found it: <a href=“AIGA Design Archives”>AIGA Design Archives;
My memory of it was mostly correct. It even won an award! I’ve remembered it as obnoxious since 1979!</p>
<p>Within the last year, there was some article in the RE section of the NYT that talked about how chic it was to live in apartments that had graffiti on them. I remember forwarding it on to some friends with kind of “oh, please, gag” cover message - it was glamorizing what anyone anywhere else would call vandalism. </p>
<p>I didn’t find the article I was referring to, but found a similar one:
<a href=“Graffiti the Owner Asked For - The New York Times”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/realestate/graffiti-the-owner-asked-for.html</a></p>
<p>But yeah, the NYT is upscale and wants to reflect avant-garde sensibilities and it is what it is.</p>
<p>The damn time stamps are all messed up. I realized I was reading posts on this thread that were allegedly posted yesterday – “How did I miss them?!” – and then saw that the one I posted a few hours ago also says it was posted yesterday.</p>
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<p>BS You can be upscale without insulating from the rest of the world. In fact, true elites will look at broader issues of the society and address them. It’s petty bourgeoisie that doesn’t venture out beyond one’s comfort zone. It is what it is is a cop-out. Newspapers are supposed to be facilliating communications among different segments of the society. I don’t even know how to respond to you can’t say if you don’t like it don’t read. </p>
<p>Speaking of Mahattan being a place for only very well to do, this is surpring. Does this upscale newspaper know about this?</p>
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<p>I never imagined that that was the role of the press. I thought it was to report the news and to include some human interest stories from time to time, for fun.</p>
<p>Maybe they should. They will have a broader reader base. How many people are there in the upper class? To quote Warren Buffet, how many pairs of pants can a weathy man wear?</p>
<p>igloo - check out The Hunt of NYT real estate section where this article was posted:
<a href=“The Hunt - The New York Times”>Times Topics - The New York Times;
As you can see, they had a story of a couple looking for 400K apartment to buy, a family of 3 with 2500 rental budget. A story of:
They do cover a wide spectrum of “The Hunt.” Not only low budget people have a hard time finding an apartment in NYC, wealthy people have similar problem, but just with a bigger number.</p>
<p>oldfort, I was responding to NYT being upscale and it is what is. Someone threw out “it is what it is” as if it is the epitome of wisdom. It isn’t what it is or it shouldn’t be.</p>
<p>By reporting news, they let others know what’s happening beyond their usual circle of activities. We grant the press accesses not available to general public. They do have fiduciary responsibilities that come with that privilege.</p>
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<p>Iglooo, I don’t understand what that means. What fiduciary responsibilities does the NYT have to its readers? Perhaps I don’t understand the word “fiduciary,” which I’ve always thought meant honesty and truth, particularly in financial matters. I do believe, very strongly, that the NYT reports facts. One can argue they sometimes report only one side of the facts, but I don’t believe they make things up.</p>
<p>VeryHappy, I get the “posted yesterday” all the time when I read CC from the iPhone app.</p>
<p>The NY Times has a fiduciary duty to its owners. That’s it. It’s duty to them is to make money. You may think it has a moral or ethical duty beyond that, of course. I think they have a duty to tell the truth, for example.</p>
<p>Oh, I broaden the meaning in the sense doing the good fitting the trust the public placed in them. I will drop fiduciary,</p>
<p>They do have responsibilities that come with that privilege.</p>