<p>lizard-back in our day they were called floods or highwater pants :D.</p>
<p>Yup, check out GQ - it’s the style du jour. And as oldfort said, the louder the socks, the better! I hate it unless it’s summer and we’re talking denim rolled up with boat shoes and no socks - but then again, he looks at the “fashions” of the 80’s and says, “really?” And if you have an 18-25 year old, you know the head tilt, eye rolling and tone that accompanies the phrase!</p>
<p>Like capris? If you’re in business, you’ve got to look business like. Men wearing capris to work isn’t going to cut it in the business world!</p>
<p>DS went to Mens Wearhouse for a suit. He is tall and slim (6"4, 180), but did not go with the trendy tighter fit, short pant. His current job requires meetings with colleagues 10-30 years older than him and he needs to look professional, and in his words, not like a kid.</p>
<p>Google Thom Browne to find pictures of very short suit pants. He also designs the BB Black Fleece line which is quite nice.</p>
<p>Thom Browne wears his pants a bit short for me but I like the shorter jackets with thin (but not skinny lapels), soft shoulders, and flat front pants with no break.</p>
<p>Thanks for the images soccer. I don’t know how I feel about the pants…it looks alittle geeky and I can’t envision too many men who are comfortable feeling that geeky looking. But I don’t have alot of those uber hip types around my neck of the real and proverbial woods. I also imagine it’s alittle strange with socks because when they sit down the pants will ride up and the hairy leg will be sticking out. But maybe they don’t care. But the short tight pants look “better” than a guy in a jacket that looks like it’s become too small for him IMO. And, if you look at the GQ photos all their jackets fit correctly. All “my men” have always had argyle socks even the big H they just aren’t out there for show all the time…more like a flash when they sit down :-)</p>
<p>I’m sitting here giggling about the concept of man capris. They aren’t that great looking on most women, but on men…ROTFL.</p>
<p>Here’s an interesting article on what to look for in suits.
[A</a> Hard-Working Suit - WSJ.com](<a href=“A Hard-Working Suit - WSJ”>A Hard-Working Suit - WSJ)</p>
<p>momofthreeboys–My good friend wears the ‘shorter’ style pants to work (we’re also co-workers) and he wears loud tall socks that go up to the mid calf, so you never see hairy leg! He has a pair of socks for every outfit, we joke, but he always looks great. I think you have to have a very specific build to pull the look off, but when you do, it looks really classy.</p>
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<p>It is likely that most suits and dress shirts on the rack are made for men fatter than a typical college age or new graduate man. So a relatively slim man (which many college age or new graduate men are) may find that the “slim fit” suits fit better, without a lot of extra material around the abdomen. More athletic men may not find anything that comes anywhere close to fitting on the rack at all, as suits and dress shirts with enough chest size are way too big in the abdomen to be reasonably alterable, or the suit trousers are too small in the hip area for a given waist size.</p>
<p>Here is an article describing nominal suit sizing:
[Determining</a> Your Suit Size](<a href=“http://www.delberts.com/DeterminingYourSuitSize.html]Determining”>http://www.delberts.com/DeterminingYourSuitSize.html)</p>
<p>UCB, that’s exactly what happened with my S. He’s a 42L with a 32" waist. When they try to alter the body of a jacket to fit everything but his shoulders, the entire line is ruined. He finally found a really slim fit at J Crew, and still they had to take in the area from chest to hip and even had to take in the sleeves - way too wide. He doesn’t have bulk in the chest area, just wide shoulders relative to his waist. In his own words, when the jacket is buttoned, it’s just shy of pulling. To him, that fits. I’m sure had I been there I would have been pushing for a little more room, but since he really cares about how he looks, I’m sure its fine. I do think I convinced him that the really short pant (a la Thom Browne) was a little too “fashion forward” for work, so he compromised on a little less of a break than I prefer, but still down to the top of his shoes. I suspect he will continue his habit or wearing “interesting” socks however. I find that if I state my case and send him off on his own to shop, that little voice in his head (read annoying) seems to prevail in many cases!</p>
<p>My H and 2 of my sons fit a perfect 42R (or 42L for one son)…but my 3rd is impossible. Football and Lacrosse have given him huge shoulders and biceps and it’s impossible to find a sportcoat off the rack without it just swimming around his midsection. We haven’t sprung the $$ for a suit for him and probably won’t until after college.</p>
<p>For the hard to fit men, it may be necessary to go for made-to-measure suits, where the man is measured by a tailor, so that a suit and dress shirt can be ordered. This obviously has a lead time and greater expense than common off-the-rack suits. Minor final alternation may need to be done when the suit and dress shirt are delivered.</p>
<p>Then again, the well fitted suit may not fit so well if the man significantly changes dimensions. Perhaps that it an incentive to avoid getting fatter?</p>
<p>These days, there do appear to be made-to-measure internet suit and dress shirt companies.</p>
<p>Of course, people working in some types of jobs (e.g. the technical side of a computer company in Silicon Valley) may not have need for suits at work, though there may be need at weddings and funerals.</p>
<p>For the relatively easy-to-fit, Jos A Bank is clearancing some of their wool suits for $97: <a href=“http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/SubCategory_11001_10050_9252000[/url]”>http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/SubCategory_11001_10050_9252000</a></p>
<p>^Nice prices for nice suits!</p>
<p>Everything you ever wanted to know about men’s trouser break, but could care less to ask about: [Men’s</a> Trouser Break - Understanding Proper Cuff Break On Male Slacks - Jeans - Pants - YouTube](<a href=“Men's Trouser Break - Understanding Proper Cuff Break On Male Slacks - Jeans - Pants - YouTube”>Men's Trouser Break - Understanding Proper Cuff Break On Male Slacks - Jeans - Pants - YouTube)</p>
<p>Funny how different work environments can influence a young man’s decision. Ours is a “young” set, with a foreign influence. So you see a snug fit 3 piece with cuff-links A LOT. Very sharp.</p>
<p>runnersmom,
Way back, when I spent a lot of time shopping for men’s suits, I found Italian suits fitted the broad shoulder/narrow waist man best. Dept stores often have very experienced salespeople who can look at a man and recommend a manufacturer.</p>
<p>Thanks bookworm, I appreciate the information. He’s set for now with the J Crew suit he bought, but when he needs/has the funds for another suit I will pass on your advice.</p>
<p>At least now we know who to blame!!</p>
<p>Thom Browne, the designer of Mrs Obama’s inauguration morning coat and dress.
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<p>[A</a> Fashion First for the Designer Thom Browne at the Inauguration - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/a-fashion-first-for-the-designer-thom-browne-at-the-inauguration/]A”>A Fashion First for the Designer Thom Browne at the Inauguration - The New York Times)</p>
<p>NJres, I heard them talking about that yesterday.</p>
<p>I would add, if someone did not already, that the guys doing the hiring are not into short and tight.</p>
<p>Easier said than done, but the suit should be bought to please the interviewer not the student. Consider- A navy blue suit, white shirt (small pin stripes ok), A subdued neck tie, not too long or short. (Usually a dark red color), black leatherbelt (a must). A nice pair of black leather shoes with laces. (no slip ons). Solid black socks that are not too short. If you’re in a money saving mood, check out the thrift stores.</p>