Telluride Association Summer Program ( TASP ) 2008

<p>I don’t support eugenics, I just think it’s an interesting idea. While there are exceptions, a large percentage of intelligence determination is biological. The rest is environmental. The general trend is that the less intelligent usually beget the less intelligent. But to be fair, there are a lot of brilliant people who came from humble beginnings.</p>

<p>The whole idea of designer babies is simply frightening. Today, already you can see people who are dissatisfied with their bodies undergo plastic surgery, human growth hormone treatments, etc. But designing a baby is something difference altogether, and, I agree, simply appalling, not only on an ethical, but a scientific level. The whole idea can only one day lead to destruction and discrimination of those who are not of the elite “perfect” race.</p>

<p>Genetically modified foods are often considered undesirable rather than “accessories.” They are usually cheaper to grow and higher in nutrition, but the current trend is actually towards “organic” foods (although I wouldn’t think to eat anything inorganic?) with no modifications at all.</p>

<p>here here to that earil, let it be a serious science not a pre-natal branch of cosmotology.</p>

<p>and yes, yes im aware of the statistics. and i love how your citing wikipedia. ( im soo tired of the speil from teachers that wiki isnt credible enough)
none the less there is a line that shouldnt be crossed you know. yes we dont want them dragging down the system with having more kids than they can handle but still. ( i know im stubborn, but whatever)</p>

<p>JJUYA, humans have been interfering with evolution since the dawn of our race :)</p>

<p>i just feel that with all the good that can come with it. there is such a big canyon of what we can **** it away doing. and that risk is just a big deterent (sp). and yes organic fruit is like double the modified.</p>

<p>wink: yeah, we have been. </p>

<p>but i’m just trying to say that eugenics has a bad side to it. it’s becoming an advocated weapon used to “kill” (aesthetically, etc.). </p>

<p>imagine, some 20 years in the future, being able to sign-in online (on some CreateYourBaby.com) and “clicking” on the features that you’d like your kid to have…</p>

<p>^ but after having taken the time to read your previous posts, i can see that you already share my opinion.</p>

<p>The only way I would hope bioengineering be utilized is for genetically modifying plants (i.e. reducing hunger, increasing nutrition) and medicinal purposes (gene therapy, stem cell research)–things that would directly benefit people. As soon as we cross the realm into commercializing genetic engineering with designer babies and cloning for “spare parts,” as soon as we begin negatively affecting human rights, as soon as we begin to see it as hot commodity, it ceases to be beneficial to society.</p>

<p>createyourbaby.com – <em>shudders</em></p>

<p>but you know we will. remember the dicussion on solving problems only causing more?</p>

<p>And Americans will be the first to do it.</p>

<p>darn skippy. sad but mostly likely yes. the question is who killed discretion?</p>

<p>and lets not forget the increase in possibilities for bioterrorism</p>

<p>It’s all about $$
In a capitalist society, how do you compromise economic freedom with ethics?</p>

<p>yeah the lines just blur and we end up in a sticky situation. i think ethics should have priority, but at the same time some things might have been lost if it was for ethics</p>

<p>Bioterrorism…a valid point, certainly worth addressing.
I’ve never considered a terrorism a major threat to the U.S., but modified vectors could create huge problems in the future.</p>

<p>^ true, true… i never thought of that.
bioterrorism, i mean…</p>

<p>but all these branches of bioengineering are all hypothetical, aren’t they?
there haven’t been any recent online CreateABaby phases, no killer genes have been mass-produced…</p>

<p>hehe i have a part time goal to end up on a government watch list.lol.
and not a major threat does that mean you think 9/11 was trumped up?</p>

<p>i wrote my issue essay on xenotransplantation (animal –> human transplants) PM if you want it. warning, i’m not a great writer, (as some of you know who i e-mailed to :)), so it may seem dry</p>

<p>i think we might break 100 pages by tomorrow</p>

<p>and about eugenics, doesn’t that go **against ** by culling the population on purpose instead of allowing it to evolve naturally? whoops, i forgot we’re human:). NOT that i’m against having smarter stonger people; no offense, but stupidity should be painful</p>

<p>Did either of you read in /Time/ about that guy who constructed an entire DNA sequence of an organism, or something like that? Humans /building/ organisms. The idea is just a little bit disturbing. I suppose it always starts out as an attempt to serve society…but one always has to wonder when things might go too far.</p>

<p>i dont know about times but i did read an article about how some college students reconstructed a dead disease from its parts. they did it just to show they could. its that kinda mess that makes me want to call people to use tighter ethical codes.</p>

<p>it was an article about rebuilding retroviruses found in human dna. scared me sooo much. like deadly viruses that we finally build immunities to like (whatever the number should be) years ago.</p>

<p>panicpower - 9/11 was a terrible incident, but the country has been paranoid of attack ever since (it was that kind of mindset that led us to enter Iraq–a deadly mistake). Even my small town got millions of dollars of anti-terrorism/protection money…we used it to buy new firetrucks haha. The chances of being killed in a terrorist attack are slimmer than being struck twice by lightning.</p>