Temple or Pitt?

Well, I will tell you that honors colleges at many schools we visited pitched honors college as a kind of exclusive smaller school within a larger school thing - Pitt’s program if you call it that, is not exactly like that. My kids have all been included in UHC, all took advantage of the honors housing at Sutherland. My one dd spent an additional year in upperclass honors. She also is my only kid who did take a honors course, because it was a course she wanted to go in depth in, and have a smaller class size. She took that honors level course during her freshman year but she hasn’t taken another honors course - mainly because she felt it did go into theoretical depth and wasn’t practical in following the curriculum as closely so that when she took the next course in the series (at a non-honors level) she wasn’t prepared as well. She had to self-teach some things she had not been taught. There are other aspects to UHC, that she has taken advantage of - namely summer research scholarships and travel scholarships to present at industry conferences. The engineering curriculum is tough and at a level that would scare many AP-driven-honors HS students as it is; you don’t need to take it at honors level to have a challenge.