Texas A&M racist video

<p>Have your forwarded this info to KPRC and KHOU? Might be a good idea.</p>

<p>I’m glad to see you’ve taken action!</p>

<p>Boy stuff like this makes us all look bad huh? Guess we get to be the Ugly American at home too. Keep us updated on this gd.</p>

<p>A&M is actually one of the more ethnically diverse Universities in the U.S. (notice I refuse to truncate “ethnically diverse” to “diverse”, because the two are simply not the same. Diversity also encompasses intellectual diversity, which nobody ever seems to mention)</p>

<p>The creators of this video are now claiming that the video was meant to be a spoof of A&M’s problem with accepting black students, and a social commentary rather than a mockery of black people. Regardless of their intentions, it was classless, and the backlash from A&M students was so great that all 3 creators withdrew from the University.</p>

<p>The vast majority of Aggies are open minded and tolerant. When you get 45,000 people together anywhere, you will encounter a few jackasses. The majority of the Aggie community condemned this unacceptable video though, and its inaccurate for any of you to assume otherwise, just because we didnt go screaming in the streets in protest for all the cameras. Believe it or not, we’re here to learn, and are inundated with hours of homework every night.</p>

<p>Part of the reason A&M doesnt attract enough minority students is because of the anti texas bias all over the country, and the sensationalist reactions to isolated incidents. I’m reasonably confident though that any qualified minority prospective student could attend A&M and be in an atmosphere that valued them as an individual and did not discriminate against them based on their race. But if they went home for the holidays out of state and used any Texan regional phrases like “howdy”, I’m also reasonably confident they would not be met with open mindedness and acceptance, and would instead be chastisted for their “Texan” speak. Gotta love double standards.</p>

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<p>Say What?</p>

<p>White: 80%
African American: 3%
Hispanic: 11%
Asian: 4%</p>

<p>ldmom06 - Thanks for your support. My brother has actually worked for Channel 26 (FOX) for five years, plus a friend is a 25 year columnist for the Houston Chronicle. But I don’t want to pull any media favor, I just want the problem fixed, by A&M, right where it exists, at A&M. It’s not a subject that is particularly shining to our society, subsequently not worthy of media coverage. </p>

<p>In regards to your private E-Mail, thank you, but protecting my identity is a mute point, as the original letter I E-Mailed to Dr. Gates gave, and was signed with my real name, three Texas residential addresses (including my address in College Station) and included my phone number and E-Mail address. And since he has friends at the CIA, regardless of whether I gave my real name and contact information or not, he could have got it anyway! LOL! :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Seriously though, I am in real fear of my friend being retaliated against. But there’s no sixth link, yet that can be proven. </p>

<p>I could prove the 6th link by posting about 8000 pages of homework, but that would violate the privacy of the students. </p>

<p>What CAN be proven is the fact that professors are, in fact, targeting (someone said 4% Asian), not only Asian students, but specifically females, F1 Visa status. Young Asian women that must comply with their F1 Visa status or face expulsion and deportation… That is extremely specific in it’s charge, claim and fact. If A&M is 80% white, why does one “professor” have (4) Asian females with F1 Visa status (already under pressure) working for him, free while he travels the world and constantly cancels class just because he doesn’t have time for the students. </p>

<p>Yeah, it’s one of the sickest damn things I have ever seen in my life. I would have expected to be able to hold A&M in higher standards after all the bragging I have seen in my last 18 years as a “Texan”. I am really let down. </p>

<p>Yes, we are the ugly “Americans” even here at home in small town Texas. </p>

<p>The more I think of this, it has occured to me that I may actually be witness to a crime. Isn’t this kind of thing illegal in Texas? </p>

<p>gd
houston
coldspring
college station</p>

<p>gd - one more pm for you! :)</p>

<p>"Say What?</p>

<p>White: 80%
African American: 3%
Hispanic: 11%
Asian: 4%"</p>

<p>Those arent great numbers, but the non hispanic white population in the U.S. is 67.4% itself, and that’s including illegals in the overall population (who make up roughly 4%). I promise you there are a ton of other schools that have more than 80% white students that dont get 1 millionth the grief for it that A&M gets.</p>

<p>gd1968, unfortunately this is not a situation only at A&M. I know a PhD student at a University in Chicago who has outside aid so didn’t HAVE to take a research position but did. This professor was very careful to only pick F-1 students from Asian backgrounds to work for him and did exactly the same things the professor at A&M did. In addition, he would berate them constantly and curse them out far too often. The student I know was the first non immigrant student he had taken and he was sorta coerced into that by other faculty members. Thought he could treat her the same way because he was her PhD advisor. </p>

<p>Ultimately she talked someone else into being her advisor and just quit working any paid research position at the University. Everyone in the department apparently knew about this and it had been going on for years but he was tenured. They quietly found a way to get her another advisor (she holds a prestigious science fellowship) and then didn’t say or do anything about the situation of the other students because, “that would go against the concept of collegiality”.</p>

<p>This is a problem in far more Universities than you know.</p>

<p>Keepmesane, that is positively scary. But folks have got to stand up for themselves. Otherwise this professor will do it again and again. I do understand the fear of repercussions.</p>

<p>This is quite disturbing. </p>

<p>I thought that my message may have gone unanswered, but to hear that this is the case in other Universities, like Chicago, is well, absurd. </p>

<p>If someone did something to help without telling me, I have to say THANK YOU!!!</p>

<p>Some policy just changed at A&M in the last three days and the F-1 visa students can now delay submission of the professor’s students’ homework corrections and grading… </p>

<p>I am a little shocked that this problem was dealt with so fast. </p>

<p>While I am not saying that I will never mention this problem again, and I would really like to hear more commentary on it, it seems like A&M has the intelligence to stop this racist process, real fast! </p>

<p>Somewhat impressed. And thankful for whoever did what///</p>

<p>Question still remains, why do we have 4 Asian F1 VISA students working for the same Professor at A&M College Station when it is 80% white? Or is it?</p>

<p>This article today touts an increase of Asians & females at A&M;</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.theeagle.com/stories/111906/am_20061119001.php[/url]”>http://www.theeagle.com/stories/111906/am_20061119001.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“From 2000 to 2005, Texas A&M University saw a 56 percent increase in the number of black faculty members. Hispanic professors in-creased by 44 percent, female faculty members by 51 percent and Asians and Pacific Islanders by 83 percent.”</p>

<p>Okay. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. </p>

<p>gd1968</p>

<p>This is quite disturbing. </p>

<p>I thought that my message may have gone unanswered, but to hear that this is the case in other Universities, like Chicago, is well, absurd. </p>

<p>If someone did something to help without telling me, I have to say THANK YOU!!!</p>

<p>Some policy just changed at A&M in the last three days and the F-1 visa students can now delay submission of the professor’s students’ homework corrections and grading… </p>

<p>I am a little shocked that this problem was dealt with so fast. </p>

<p>While I am not saying that I will never mention this problem again, and I would really like to hear more commentary on it, it seems like A&M has the intelligence to stop this racist process, real fast! </p>

<p>Somewhat impressed. And thankful for whoever did what///</p>

<p>Question still remains, why do we have 4 Asian F1 VISA students working for the same Professor at A&M College Station when it is 80% white? Or is it?</p>

<p>This article today touts an increase of Asians & females at A&M;</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.theeagle.com/stories/111906/am_20061119001.php[/url]”>http://www.theeagle.com/stories/111906/am_20061119001.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“From 2000 to 2005, Texas A&M University saw a 56 percent increase in the number of black faculty members. Hispanic professors in-creased by 44 percent, female faculty members by 51 percent and Asians and Pacific Islanders by 83 percent.”</p>

<p>Okay. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. </p>

<p>gd1968</p>

<p>gd - I’m glad to hear that something is happening. Is a policy change about to occur and if so do you have any details?</p>

<p>ldmom, </p>

<p>Even while I previously mentioned that the problem appears to be corrected, I was contacted via E-mail from the University today, by a Dean of Graduate Studies, Ph.D, etc. I called him back about 5 minutes after receiving his E-mail, and I was a little taken back by the fact that one of the first things he said was 'We are not perfect" and something to the effect that at times people make poor decisions. </p>

<p>We did not discuss the mathematical “anomaly” of (4) Asian female F-1 Visa status students being selected to correct all of the professors work in a school which appears to be 80% white. I feel confident that by making the complaint and using my real name and address, phone number and E-mail address, that the report was taken seriously. In fact this person was assigned to follow up by Dr. Gates’ office. </p>

<p>I left the situation as is and noted that it appears to have been corrected. He has an “open door” as clearly stated to me on the phone, and I can call and even meet with him anytime. He offered to meet me anywhere to discuss this. And since I live 1 mile from the college, I feel confident in that my friends and I have a good secure contact for more help if needed. </p>

<p>I do not plan on pursuing the matter any further. I still feel very let down and very shocked to learn of this type of treatment of International students. Anyone I have mentioned it to (Americans and a few Germans) quickly admonish such behavior as “racist” and some have said “slavery” without my prior mention of such terms to them… </p>

<p>So, I have a contact at the University now, that has assured me he would help. He said that it can be done privately, but I am still afraid of getting my friend into a bind after the years of work it took for her to become an “Aggie”… </p>

<p>I feel a little more relieved in seeing that TAMU listened to me, and is there to help… Hopefully there will not be any need to follow up on this issue in the future. </p>

<p>I was tempted to tear the A&M badge off the back of my car and toss it in the trash, but I think I will leave it on there… </p>

<p>Anyway… Thank you very much for your concern, support and help, as well as others who showed concern and offers to help in some way. </p>

<p>gd
College Station Texas</p>

<p>i want to see the original video. damn youtube.</p>

<p>Here is a transcript of the video that was on Youtube;</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/16058259.htm[/url]”>http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/16058259.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This estimates that 74% of Texas A&M College Station students are white, along with some interviews of black, hispanic and one Asian student. </p>

<p>It makes me wonder what the Dallas Morning News or Kansas City Star would think, if a reporter got out a calculator and tried to estimate the odds of an “accident” with one professor selecting only (4) Asian female F-1 Visa status students to do all of his work for him, free…</p>

<p>Trying to drop the issue, but I am coming to realize that I am far more angry about the issue than I realized (and to just stop talking about it…) </p>

<p>My friend is in class now and when she is finished she will be doing her own studies today, instead of working free like a slave for the professor just because she is in the US for an education on a delicate F-1 Visa status… Sigh… </p>

<p>Things are better today than they were last week… </p>

<p>Gig Em… :slight_smile: </p>

<p>gd
College Station Texas</p>

<p>I hired an Aggie to work for me 15 years ago and he’s turned into my best friend. He comes from a great family and both his brothers are Aggies. He and one of his brothers took me and my son to an Aggie football game just a couple weeks ago. The atmosphere on that campus is incredibly warm and friendly. I can’t tell you how many folks said “Howdy” unsolicited and I responded in kind.</p>

<p>I don’t doubt for a second that there are bigots amongst the students, professors and alumni, as I am certain there are at nearly every university. But, they are overwhelmingly outnumbered by good folks that don’t need to be painted with a broad brush.</p>

<p>I’m thrilled to hear that gd got such a prompt response to her complaint. I would encourage folks to bring things like this to the attention of administrators of any school. Major universities are huge organizations and unfortunately what seems like obviously bad behavior can go unobserved by people in the position to do something about it. So, do provide feedback, but don’t assume that problems like these are necessarily institutionalized or condoned.</p>

<p>My son has a liberal bent and has applied to Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor and Oklahoma. He’s been accepted to all but Texas so far, which is his first choice. I took him to A&M for a game so he’d get a feel for some of what makes that campus a special place. I hope he gets into Texas, because it is what he wants. But, I’d be very happy for him to be exposed to many of the very positive aspects of attending Texas A&M.</p>

<p>(side note: The lovely bride and I are both Gator grads. Our sophomore son has his room painted Orange and Blue, so we are looking forward to one of the boys going to be best University in the land. ;0)</p>

<p>A question to all those who deem it racist: Are any and every ethnic joke racist? Or past some arbitrary point in taste and subtlety, the given joke is racist? Having not seen it, this video seems to be such a joke in extremely bad taste. Given that, I wouldn’t call it racist but rather quite distasteful. If you call the makers of this video racist, what do you call the likes of David Duke? The term has been rendered near meaningless, and worse, has lost its power to distinguish. It’s best to describe precisely what the person in turn did or said, rather than resort to words bandied about upon a moment’s notice. </p>

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Ah yes, guilty by virtue of the proportion of whites. I suppose, every white in oh, Idaho, Montana, Vermont, New Hampshire, and the Dakotas is similarly guilty, not being sufficiently appreciative of ‘diversity.’ Perhaps Aggies are sacrificing diversity so that others may have more of it? How charitable of them! ;)</p>

<p>gd-
This practice is not at all uncommon. My dad arrived in America as an mechanical engineering student on an F1 visa in the 1981. He was working on his Masters, and his school only had the thesis option for getting a Masters (as opposed to a coursework option). One of his conditions for getting a Masters was assisting his advisor. This professor had another EIGHT Indian students working for him. These students did all of his grading, preparing lectures, and most of his research, as well. Basically, they were like slaves, with little time to do their own coursework because they feared that the professor (the head of the mechanical engineering dept.) would remove them from the Master’s program, thus stripping them of their student status and forcing them to go back to India. Keep in mind that several of these students were pretty poor and had families to support back in India, so they were counting on a job in America afterwards as a result of the Masters. Basically, they were terrorized.
My dad was supposed to get a $300 monthly stipend for research, and every month had to go ask for the money from his advisor. My dad says that this professor (who controlled the money) seemed to enjoy “toying” with my dad, since he often said that the department ran out of money that month and sent my dad home with nothing and became unpredictably irritated whenever my dad asked for the stipend. As a result, my dad had to work night shifts at the local store sweeping floors for 2 years to support my mother and my sister (a baby at that time) in addition to his duties assisting his professor and studying. In retrospect, it might be that the professor was actually stealing money from his students. Newly arrived immigrants are often guillable, so he might have taken advantage of this.
But not only did this professor treat his students horribly, he extended their time in slavery. Most Masters are supposed to be completed in 2 years, but he kept most of his students for much longer than that. How? He actually sabotaged his students applications when they were applying for doctoral programs by writing negative rec letters to the doctoral (PhD) programs, and rejected students’ thesises over and over. So students were stuck with him for years. My dad only graduated in 3 years by using some “tricks”. He worked on his thesis with a distinguished professor at Cornell at a summer program, and so my dad’s advisor was forced to approve his thesis as not to contradict an expert. He also only applied to doctoral problems that didn’t require letter of recommendations and was accepted into a few. When he told his advisor he was leaving next year for a doctoral program, the advisor yelled at him. My mom said that it was the first time she had ever seen my dad cry in their marriage.
My dad was lucky: he got out in 3 years. Some of his other friends weren’t: one graduated in 8 years.
The astonishing thing about this incident is that it happened at a recognized, pretty strong college. I’m sure the same thing occurs at other places.</p>

<p>I am very sorry to hear of that happening to your father. </p>

<p>I am still very extremely angry to discover what happened to my friend at Texas A&M here in college station. It seems like the problem may not be over, as I previously reported. My friend was up until 4am doing studies and missed her class this morning due to the fact that she is having to correct the homework of this professor. </p>

<p>Yes, it is slavery. I am tempted to contact the dean that called me, but what I would really like to know, is there a federal govt. agency that investigates and deals with this type of slavery of International F1 VISA students? Certainly there HAS to be. </p>

<p>She can not afford to file a lawsuit, but you know what, I can, and I am very tempted to help her fund it. But where to start? </p>

<p>This is an absolute horrible disgrace to American society and I will be damned if I am going to stand by and watch without doing something. </p>

<p>gd</p>