Thanksgiving

<p>I am enjoying this thread! We’ve done Thanksgiving since before we were married. When we lived in Manhattan we had a weekend house in Woodstock and everyone would come up for three days - Thursday to Saturday. Now they just stay until late Friday night, it is really fun but exhausting! My husband and I do argue about how to arrange the tables, who to seat at which table, and now, I’m happy to say, my great-nephews are big enough to sit at their own table so that helps a lot. (But where do we put the third table?)</p>

<p>Here’s my question that someone brought up - I love Thanksgiving kitsch, the more tacky the better so that means using Thanksgiving tablecloths that don’t match my contemporary black and white china. It bothers me every year and this year it’s really time to replace the tablecloths (about 20 years old). The main table is 10 feet long so I need a 12 foot tablecloth which is a bit hard to find and limits my choices. Any suggestions?</p>

<p>Why, thanks for the compliment, BB! You’re right, cooking is pretty much identical to chemistry (especially the lab part), except in cooking you don’t have to worry so much about the yield. And cooking smells much better!</p>

<p>And for frazzled - here’s the recipe for the cranberry-mango relish. It does have a lot of sugar, but you can cut back (especially if you like your cranberries on the tart side). You can also use Splenda instead of sugar - I do, since I have diabetes and need to cut back on starches. </p>

<p>Anyway:</p>

<p>Cranberry Mango Compote</p>

<p>1 pound of fresh cranberries, washed and cleaned
2 c sugar (I’d actually start with 1½ cups and work up)
½ cup of water
2 large ripe mangos – peeled and diced
1 tablespoon vanilla extract
¼ cup (or more!) of orange-flavored liqueur (Triple Sec, Grand Marnier, etc.)</p>

<p>Combine the cranberries, sugar and water in a medium acid-resistant saucepan. Bring to a very slow simmer over medium heat. Stir only to mix in the cranberries that rise to the top (to minimize mashing the fruit).</p>

<p>Cook until the berries are very tender and their flavor is still bright (about 20-30 minutes).</p>

<p>Add in the mangoes, vanilla and liqueur. Return to a simmer, and then remove from the heat. Transfer to a serving dish and refrigerate until ready to serve.</p>

<p>The leftovers are really good with waffles or pancakes!</p>

<p>Bunsen,</p>

<p>Can you post the vodka pie crust recipe? </p>

<p>You sure like that pear stuffing from the Times. It’s scaring me with so many ingredient but I think I’ll give it a whirl.</p>

<p>We have done the turkey in the bag and it is super duper moist but not handsome on the carving plate. Plus we like to stuff our bird.</p>

<p>amtc don’t look for an actual tablecloth. Look for tablecloth or table top fabric ( try fabric dot com). I just hemmed the ends, used the fabric salvage for the sides. You do have to look through the laminated/oil cloth/flannel backed vinyl, but there is actual fabric table cloth yardage.</p>

<p>Edit to add: you might try tableclothsfactory dot com I helped a friend buy linens for her daughters wedding reception and she was pleased with their service. The tablecloths were donated to the church (in another state) after the reception, so I don’t have first hand knowledge of how well they held up, but the prices are great.</p>

<p>For holiday decor, I rely a lot on my Johnson Bros. “Friendly Village” china handed down from my grandmother, to my mom and gradually to me. I have rounded out over the years with the gravy dish and the wonderful Turkey Platter. It’s really dorky stuff but just works well during the holidays. And not very expensive. It’s really out of fashion, so always on deep discount. Oh, last year DH got me the teapot. It’s adorable.</p>

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<p>Oh, my, what an education this thread is. There are so many different methods I feel like I want to print out this thread and study it for years to come.</p>

<p>I was raised in a PA Dutch family (simply means we were descendants of the Amish, but most of us were Mennonite or Church of the Brethren), so all the relatives cooked the same. The bird went in the oven very early. Since many mothers/aunts were already up to help with the 5 AM milking, this wasn’t an issue. Typically the bird was finished long before the meal was served so there was time to carve it and make gravy before the feast was served. BTW, we ate closer to the noon hour because the farmers had to be ready for the second milking at around 4 PM.</p>

<p>Birds were not stuffed. We had filling. That’s our version of stuffing, although I contend that it is much better than stuffing, but it’s probably all about what you were raised on. Later, my mother found the virtues of potato filling. Simply mix mashed potatoes with the filling. To this day I like to fill up on that when attending Thanksgiving Day feasts. There was also the obligatory green bean/ mushroom soup. fried onion rings casserole, corn, lima beans (veggies from the garden), sweet potatoes (also from the garden), celery, carrots, olives, and homemade pickles (I still can’t find a store brand that rivals the homemade kind, but don’t have the patience to spend the 14 days to make my own.) There might be applesauce (again homemade). Almost forgot- we began the meal with homemade fruit salad served in goblets. The meal would be served with rolls, butter, and either homemade jelly, or cranberry sauce from a can ( go figure).</p>

<p>Then dessert. Pies, and lots of them. Pumpkin (cooking our own pumpkin, never from a can), pecan pie, apple, and maybe even a cherry ( from the cherries we picked from the tree in June and have since frozen or canned). Most popular were the pumpkin and pecan pies. At Christmas, my grandmother also made mince pies. I never tried them, and she is gone now, but I remember the aunts and uncles going crazy over them. Then we couldn’t have pie without ice cream. And you can’t have ice cream without pretzel sticks and salted peanuts. Yes, we had coffee. But nothing any stronger. My DH and I joke that we are going to carry our own supply along to make the family dinners more enjoyable, but it’s never gotten past the joking stage.</p>

<p>For more than 10 years, my immediate family started a tradition of traveling to Washington DC for Thanksgiving, staying at the Embassy Suites, and spending a few days enjoying the city. At first I made the mistake of trying to find a restaurant that served a Thanksgiving meal similar to our tradition. Not finding that, we found some other fabulous places, and started our own tradition that included omelettes, squash soup, shrimp, and pasta. Oh, and champagne!</p>

<p>Now that our first D is in college, she wants to stay home instead of traveling to DC for the short time she is home, and we are enjoying two great meals in one day.</p>

<p>Thanks for this opportunity to travel down memory and celebrate the traditions of so many cultures that make up this board.</p>

<p>Sewhappy, I will dig it up and post as soon as I get a hold of my computer. There was a thread on the art of pie making in the cafe a couple years ago, and that’s where I got the recipe.</p>

<p>You all do know that you can cook a turkey any time you want to? You don’t have to wait for Thanksgiving?</p>

<p>I really like turkey and so does DH. It works out well. I cook (a small) one, we have dinner, we have sandwiches for a few days, I make stock from the carcass and freeze the extra meat for the dogs. Everyone’s happy.</p>

<p>Thanks so much for the cranberry-mango relish recipe, scout59. I love the ingredients. Has anyone out there ever tried Mama Stamberg’s Cranberry Relish recipe that Susan Stamberg used to read on-air every Thanksgiving? I remember it’s got horseradish in it. I’ve never tried it but maybe this is the year to have three cranberry choices - scout’s, Mama Stamberg’s. and the Ocean Spray canned thingie that one of my kids would be crushed not to see on the table.</p>

<p>What a lovely post, FlyMeToTheMoon. Almost like Laura Ingalls Wilder. :slight_smile: This is indeed a wonderful thread.</p>

<p>Here is the vodka pie crust recipe:</p>

<p>[Cook’s</a> Illustrated’s Foolproof Pie Dough | Serious Eats : Recipes](<a href=“http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2007/11/cooks-illustrated-foolproof-pie-dough-recipe.html]Cook’s”>Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough Recipe)</p>

<p>It is, as the name suggests, foolproof.</p>

<p>Scout, thank you for the compote recipe. My H is crazy about anything that has mango in it, so I guarantee it will be a hit in my house. Ever since I made a few dishes using the recipies posted on CC, H stopped teasing me about frequenting this site. :)</p>

<p>I second (or third?) the LATimes dry-brined method. I did not even brine 3 days ahead, maybe 1 1/2 days, and it worked out great. Less messy than the water-brined method.</p>

<p>Funny thing about cranberry relish. Nobody in my house really eats it, so I tried different methods each year just to experiment. One year, I did not even bother and sure enough, someone will ask why no cranberry this year?!? They just want it there for tradition’s sake. I may try the pepto bismol colored Mama Stamsberg recipe this year to see if they notice…</p>

<p>My mom always made a cranberry relish and cranberry sauce. I just make cranberry sauce (not jellied) with a bit of orange zest in it. Just follow the directions on the back of the cranberry bag …5 minutes or so, grate the zest and all done! My son has never known anything else, so it’s all good.</p>

<p>Maybe it’s just that I’ve never had to cook a huge turkey, but I just roast it the same way I do a roast chicken - on a rack. I put a cup of wine or juice under the bird and slather the bird with butter and put some shallots and garlic in the liquid. Then I baste with the liquid every half hour or so. If the breast look too brown I put a little tinfoil on them. I add liquid if it dries up.</p>

<p>I tried Susan Stamberg’s cranberry recipe a few years ago. We all agreed it was interesting, but hat we preferred the simple cranberry and sugar.</p>

<p>I don’t have strong feelings about sides except to have some unsugary version of yams/sweet potatoes.</p>

<p>We always have apple and pecan pie and someone usually brings pumpkin. Whip cream of course. We use the vodka pie crust recipe too. [Cook’s</a> Illustrated’s Foolproof Pie Dough | Serious Eats : Recipes](<a href=“http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2007/11/cooks-illustrated-foolproof-pie-dough-recipe.html]Cook’s”>Cook's Illustrated's Foolproof Pie Dough Recipe) It’s good, but stickier than regular so it’s harder to make decorations on the dough with it.</p>

<p>To drink I like champagne just fine. We often have gewurztraminer.</p>

<p>I haven’t read through the whole thread. Has anyone mentioned the Hot Pineapple Casserole? This is my “required” dish to bring from/for our family gathering. </p>

<p>Mom still makes the stuffing - hers has ground beef in it - my H can’t get enough! </p>

<p>Other Thanksgiving traditions: often the Lions (bro’s team) play the Packers (S’s team) - they have a deal that the loser has to help with the dishes. </p>

<p>Lately my sister in law has made a fennel- wild rice dish that I adore. Hoping she makes it again this year. :)</p>

<p>And freshly whipped whipped cream - lots of it. On top of whatever. :)</p>

<p>^^ abasket - the Lions game is always a must-see in my house too (usually I am told to time the meal for halftime or after the game is over.)</p>

<p>This year it’s particularly important since DH is a huge Packer fan and the Packers are currently undefeated. I hear they’re even playing the Bears on Christmas Day! Curse, you Green Bay - you’re already stealing my Thanksgiving, must you also muck up Christmas?</p>

<p>Our day: I get up and watch the Macy’s parade…alone. No one will watch it with me. I begin preparing food for the football games (foodball games): wrapped brie cheese, chili, chicken wings, fried ravioli, pigs in a blanket. Oh…and a few veggies thrown in for luck.</p>

<p>About 2 or 3 I begin the turkey cooking. We eat at 7 (early for us). Table was set the day before. </p>

<p>People begin arriving at first football kickoff. I watch the kickoff(s) and read the brochures for the sales. People eat all day. </p>

<p>There is the obligatory dog walking to insure an appetite. </p>

<p>Serious cooking/assembly starts at 5:30 or so…and then eating…later.</p>

<p>I love Thanksgiving!!!</p>

<p>Hey ellebud–that reminds me. Last year I did not have much company and decided to eat more like early dinner time (6-ish?) rather than the usual 2-ish. It worked out <em>much</em> better for me (the cook). Had a <em>very</em> relaxed day, and even put my feet up for a while in the afternoon. I’m not sure how the tradition of eating these big holiday meals so early got started but you reminded me to plan for later again this year. Thanks!</p>

<p>(P.S. I always have the parades on in the kitchen but I can’t get any of my rotten family to watch with me either.) (Although I must admit to sneaking in a bit of the dog show.)</p>

<p>Ellebud, my DH is very devoted to the Macy’s Day Parade – even when we lived thousands of miles from it. I’m a little tardy always but drag myself out of bed for it. In all honesty, I really don’t get it but I love that those I love do.</p>