<p>Kliviz, i’m not trying to say that people of any ethnicity are inferior to those of another. I was simply pointing out that stanford, as well as many other elite universities, gives pretty significant advantages to underrepresented minorities. A black kid from our high school got into stanford with a 3.25 UW(he wasn’t in any weighted classes), a 1530 out of 2400 SAT and a 23 ACT. He is currently a junior there. while this is a pretty extreme example, i think that it shows that the statement that most would be there without affirmative action has some wholes in it. Because of this, i think that a better argument, and one that i could see the reasoning behind would be that A.A. is needed to make up for other factors beyond an applicants control. You touched on this, and i think that you have a point. However, it is ignorant and untrue to pretend that white are not discriminated against in the admissions process. Recognize the preferences and defend them if you want, but please don’t try to argue that they have little effect. PM me if you want, as to not bog down this thread with a continued debate.</p>