<p>I dunno much about ED vs regular, but I think you have a pretty good chance.</p>
<p>@bayhawk and @superlinksy</p>
<p>MathIIC–
Don’t submit both math subject tests-- it’s only going to “count” as one subject test- not only at CMU but everywhere.</p>
<p>See admissions instructions-- MCS, CIT, SCS-- MathIIC required.</p>
<p>Applying for: engineering!
SAT: 2030 – 650 CR, 710 M, 670 W (retaking them in October)
SAT IIs: 780 Chemistry, 740 Math II, 800 French Language, 740 US History
Unweighted GPA: 3.62
Weighted GPA: 4.35
Rank: school doesn’t rank
Other stats:
AP Chemistry 5, AP English Language 5, AP US History 4, AP World History 5, AP Spanish 5, AP French 5
Now taking AP Calc AB, AP Statistics, AP English Literature, AP European History, Spanish 6 Accelerated, Physics Accelerated
Also took the French section of the International Baccalaureate (this was outside of school. I studied for the exam on my own –> very good scores)</p>
<p>EC’s:
4 years varsity cross country: captain 11th and 12th, “outstanding freshman award,” “nobody tougher award”
4 years varsity winter & spring track: captain 11th and 12th –> sports were extremely time consuming
Very advanced French lessons outside of school 7th to 11th grade to prepare for the French IB
70 hours of volunteering: Special Olympics events, helped organize a charity 5K race, Building With Books
Tutored a middle school student in French this summer (about 15 hours total)</p>
<p>Essays: good
Recs: good teacher recs, good counselor rec, great coach rec
Location/Person: French citizen, have a green card
State or Country: NJ
School Type: very competitive, public
Ethnicity: white
Gender: female
Other Factors: I moved to the US in 6th grade without knowing any English (which is why I have trouble with the English section of the SAT) but learned it incredibly rapidly. I only took 1 year of ESL and now take AP English classes.</p>
<p>Be brutally honest please!!! thanks</p>
<p>Wow, whew! FINALLY AN APPLICANT WITH NORMAL STATS :O</p>
<p>Keep in mind CIT is hard to get into; I wouldn’t worry to much about your reading scores but your sub-800 math scores (both SAT I and II) and your sub-800 science score… is not great :/</p>
<p>You might want to increase your SSL hours, 70 isn’t that many.</p>
<p>I totally know your pain GPA wise - I too, have taken many AP classes (10 5’s for me), gotten all fives, but now have 3.6 unweighted -_-. Gonna be a Tepper applicant though, doesn’t know where that puts me.</p>
<p>Still, write a good essay, get some good recs, and it can happen! I suggest for you to visit CMU if you can - and interview with the admissions office. You want the adcom to go beyond the numbers (which, not to be mean - mine are in many ways similar - are somewhat low) and get to you the person.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Applying to CIT for engineering</p>
<p>GPA~ About 3.9 UW, 3.96 W
Rank~ Top 10% of class of about 220 students (very competitive)</p>
<p>SAT: 2240 (750 CR 770 Math 720 Writing)
ACT: 33 Composite (Also took the writing portion)
SAT IIs: 800 Physics 800 Math II 660 WH 800 U.S 560 Math I (Ran out of time and omitted about 22 questions)</p>
<p>AP Courses Taken:</p>
<p>World History (4)
U.S History (5)
English Language (5)
Physics (5)
Statistics (5)</p>
<p>Senior Year AP Courses</p>
<p>Chemistry
Calculus BC
Government
English Literature
Possibly Computer Science A</p>
<p>Clubs/Extracurriculars:</p>
<p>Concert Band 9-12 (Saxophone leader 12 of section of about 14 Saxophone players)
Pep Band 11-12 (Started in junior year)
JV Baseball 9-10 (Co-captain 10)
Varsity Baseball 11-12
SOS 9-12 (Vice President 12)
English Honor Society 10-12
National Honor Society 11-12 (Running for president)
Math League 9-12 (President 12)
Academic League (President 12)</p>
<p>Community Service~ 200+ Hours working for SOS, local food cupboard, and tutoring (for free)</p>
<p>Work experience- Cashier at Shoprite since Summer of sophmore year, up until Graduation (about 3 years total) Promotion to higher paid position</p>
<p>Awards-</p>
<p>National Merit Semifinalist (Most likely finalist, only have to fill out application)
AMC 12 School Winner
AIME Qualifier
High Honor Roll Every year of High school
All-County Band (Alto Saxophone)</p>
<p>Reccomendations will be Great, Essays will be Great, Caucasian Male (im half asian, could put that if it will increase my chances) </p>
<p>May apply ED</p>
<p>@claroudu92: I think you have pretty good stats- you might just need to pull up your SAT I scores a bit more (700+). Also, your profile make you seem quite interesting which is a plus. 
What engineering, btw?</p>
<p>@cortana431: pretty decent stats. Don’t submit MathI; Math II is quite sufficient. I don’t think putting down half-asian will increase/decrease your chances in any way, though. Are you looking to get into ECE?</p>
<p>Cortana, there’s nothing stat wise which would prevent you from getting in. Good luck!</p>
<p>Cortana, </p>
<p>You have good stats and good classes and good ECs throughout your career. However, consider that other applicants may be in the exact same situation as you are. Make sure your essays are unique and interesting and sufficiently explain why you want to major in whatever you’re majoring in. </p>
<p>Make sure that Admissions sees the human behind all these numbers and this app.</p>
<p>If i were to apply ED, how much better are my chances of getting in? (To CIT for engineering)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>If you’re stats say you’re qualified, it’s misleading to think you increase your chances ED over RD… The only reason stats for ED are higher than RD is b/c overall stronger applicants apply ED over RD --not b/c the chances are greater per se. This is true for CMU and elsewhere. Students believe they have better chances --that is simply not true… if you cross any school’s threshold, you would be admitted either RD or ED. ED is for well qualified applicants.</p>
<p>The reason to apply ED over RD is b/c you really do want to attend a particular school over all other schools and financial considerations are irrelevant to you personally. If you’re qualified and know a school is for you-- then it removes four torture filled months of agonizing waiting (Dec, Jan,Feb, Mar). If a school is not your first choice or money is a concern, then you should apply RD.</p>
<p>@mom:</p>
<p>Curious, what is your source for the claim that ED applicants overall have higher stats? This runs contrary to a great deal of what I’ve seen anecdotally, so I would like to know if that is the case.</p>
<p>@Kate</p>
<p>In all colleges across the board, ED acceptance rates are higher than RD rates…and the data is simply b/c students don’t apply ED to a reach school. ED is for match schools. So it’s not that a student has a higher chance with ED than RD in a given college-- with the same application - same chances. The data are a manifestation of who applys ED. No one applies to a reach school ED-- it’s a waste of money-- but students apply RD to a reach school. So overall, an ED pool relative to an RD pool has higher stats quite simply b/c those applying really do want to attend and don’t bother applying unless they do have the “recommended” stats.</p>
<p>It’s a chicken/egg kind of thing…
Now if we want to talk about highly qualified URMs…excellent chance in ED all around b/c colleges want to secure those spots with the best qualified URMS.</p>
<p>Mom - </p>
<p>“ED is for match schools” + “No one applies to a reach school ED-- it’s a waste of money-- but students apply RD to a reach school.”</p>
<p>It’s quite different than what I heard from other CC parent. Can you explain a little bit more?</p>
<p>We assume we agree on definitions:
Reach
Match/Fit
Safeties</p>
<p>My colleagues (I am a part of a 3 person college consulting business on the east coast ) and I tell our clients that ED is for a school you know you should be accepted to given your stats and it’s your first hands-down “would die for” choice. You don’t play games and risk ED for a school you really don’t want to attend and/or you already know you probably wouldn’t have a reasonably solid chance of acceptance. Why get rejected when you could take that 1 ED slot and use it for a school that you can be accepted to for certain (not below-match - but a solid match/fit). Safeties are not ED schools-- that’s also a ridiculous waste of your one ED slot.</p>
<p>I realize some people think – well I could never get into HYPMS anyway-- so let me just try one ED for the hell of it-- WHY DO THAT?
Be honest-- no one is a guarantee to a HYPMS-- but some people are clearly potential matches and others have no chance. If you know you have no reasonable shot at that level, then don’t gamble. There are likely 2-4 qualified applicants for every admitted HYPMS applicant-- and then 2-5 unqualified applicants too. You know if you shouldn’t bother with a school-- so why waste your one ED shot on that situation. But you also know when you have the stats-- that is what ED is for-- you have the stats and you really absolutely 150% know you want to be at “X University” …then that’s what IMHO ED is for. It tells a school that their school is your first choice.</p>
<p>Let’s say you took that gamble on a school that you really had no reasonable shot…then you are stuck waiting until end of March/early April on a pile of RD decisions.</p>
<p>@mom2012and14 That’s not quite true if you apply EA to some other schools… Sometimes, if it’s a reach but you really want to go, ED makes sense, imo.</p>
<p>As I said, IHMO-- it was just my professional opinion…everyone should do what’s best for their own personal situation. College admissions is a terrible gamble and an unnecessary stress of life-- it’s really an awful time for high school seniors and their families. That said, I agree with you-- There’s definitely an argument to be made for ED to a reach school-- I just personally think it’s a waste if there is already another first-choice match school-- then go to the match ED if it’s a place you really would want to be. You know when something is a reach – why waste your one ED shot? Again- just my humble opinion. I would hate to see a student suffer the wait for several more months.</p>
<p>EA however is not ED-- and EA is non-binding at some of CMU’s competitors-- I assume we are talking about CalTech and MIT-- where EA is non-binding? Not once have I had a client come off a wait list from EA or ED to make it RD at a TOP-rated school. I have no idea why these schools play with people’s hearts and souls-- so cruel. Cut the ties – if it’s a no it’s a no-- why schools cruely defer to RD - beyond me?! It happens – but very rarely-. So hence, I say don’t waste an ED shot on a ridiculous long shot…</p>
<p>EA also non-binding at CMU and open only to Pre-college students.</p>
<p>First, chances for Tepper RD? :]
White Male From Maryland
SAT I : 790 CR, 760 M, 710 W (Retaking in October… I am sure I can get at least my math score to 800.)
SAT II: 800 Math II, 790 Physics, 750 World History
National Merit Semifinalist (PSAT 223)
AP Scholar with currently all 5’s on the 10 AP Tests I have taken.
Unweighted GPA 3.6 (yuck! With one C… Second Semester Junior year, Photo Class :(), Weighted 4.35
260 Service Hours, I Will Possibly Get Up To 300 By The Time I apply.
ECs Include Captain/Founder Economics Challenge Team, Vice President Of Robotics Club, Co-Captain Of The Math Team, Captain of Computer Team. Member of Investment Club, etc.
I was an AIME Participant, Have won numerous programming competitions, and am also a national semifinalist (top 100 nationally) for the Physics Olympiad. I also got second place regionally for physics Bowl. I’ve quite a few other rewards, but most that I can think of are smaller.</p>
<p>Finally, I have done a summer internship at an IT firm, and this school year as part of the “Superintendent Student Leadership Program”, at Morgan Stanley Smith Barney. </p>
<p>I think my recs (question - can I submit two teacher recs? And also two additional employer recs?)/essays/interview turned out pretty well. </p>
<p>Also,
- Can you elaborate on how that works, please?, mom2012and14?</p>
<p>Thanks for answering a nervous senior :P</p>
<p>RDs have been known to be successful in getting more financial aid awarded by presenting a better offer from a competitor institution.</p>
<p>Lots of posts on this topic last year around April/May…re-read those.</p>
<p>RPI isn’t a competitor with Tepper however.
You would need a Michigan, Stanford, NYU, U of Penn etc. type of match for Tepper.</p>
<p>Well, yes, I know the institutions have to be business schools - but do they really need to be that caliber? RPI to engineering is not Wharton to business… :/</p>
<p>Also, with this bigger picture… chances? (I know you don’t really like those) xD</p>
<p>I cannot find the report-- but it’s in one of the old threads in april and may…
One of the posters Steelergators had the Tepper competitors noted.</p>
<p>CMU only matches competitors…and for Tepper, ranked very high with undergrad business, you need similar matches…</p>
<p>Scrounge the old threads…the link is somewhere. You may even find it on the CMU search engine.</p>
<p>I don’t chance b/c I never know what an Adcom is thinking…heck, if your file is open one day and the person has the flu and is miserable, who knows what could happen before that person closes the file and goes home …college admissions is a weird thing, stranger things have been known to happen. But that said, your stats for tepper are clearly above average-- which you already know. You just got to wait it now …enjoy your senior year! You could take the time to apply to several competitive business/management scholarships and summer programs. (check the more general threads for those). Jump start your career-- find a summer 11 program.</p>