<p>haven’t you heard of asian on asian hating lol</p>
<p>Yeah so? he is allowed to bag on his own race jeez. talk about tolerance man u guys must celebrate kwanzaa Christmas and hannukkah just in case anybody is watching and they might call you rascist. </p>
<p>OK then…white people are really fat and disgusting and they are all hillbillies who live like Ma and Pa Clampet. There you happy? I just made fun of my own race.</p>
<p>Happy Chrismahanukwanzakah lol</p>
<p>lol i love that commercial</p>
<p>***? I never said he couldn’t bag on his own race. </p>
<p>Locke: Your argument is flawed all over and quite offensive as you stereotype the Asian culture unshamefully.</p>
<p>I just accuse him of doing it. Seriously, read thoroughly before making more accusations.</p>
<p>being asian and in the US for 18 years and all you hear about is asians that have perfect math scores all the time its kind of hard not to sterotype. The other thing is the reputation that you had to be extremely smart in math and science. </p>
<p>I went looking for the answer because doesn’t anyone find it strange that a person is supposed to be great and math and science just because a lot of members in the race are too?</p>
<p>If you read the title it says “the cold war effects on the asian sterotype” it is simply an explaination why this sterotype exists within the asian community and what causes it to reinforced into its society.</p>
<p>"Hey Locke, maybe you should spend your next 40 minutes talking about how Sherman ran through your little state, and the repercussions it’s had on you and your ancestors fanatic racism and prejudice!</p>
<p>Click!"</p>
<p>I wonder if Sherman met a chinese person before???</p>
<p>I know some part of this theory aren’t really that refined but I wanted to put it on the table. I like “kfc4u” agruement that to cold war compounds the sterotype, it doesn’t cause it.</p>
<p>Maybe the writing is too convulted basically I say these things:
<p>Hey Locke, maybe you should spend your next 40 minutes talking about how Sherman ran through your little state, and the repercussions it’s had on you and your ancestors fanatic racism and prejudice!</p>
<p>Im from Savannah, Georgia and i find that remark highly offensive. ;)</p>
<p>about sports well chinese don’t do very well it American sports because with shorter legs and a smaller frame we can’t do basketball and football as well. When was the last time you saw a chinese person play basketball really well besides Yao ming. By the way his whole family is really tall compared to most asians. His dad must be over 6 ft based on the picture I saw with him standing with his son. Really really tall.
I have never seen a pro asian football ball player, have you? (not soccer)</p>
<p>Americans suk horribly at ping-pong. They are awful, so slow and they move like rocks. Their serves are big and wide, and they stand way too far from the table. You slam them on the other side and they lose.</p>
<p>Anyhow, my experince tells me the Chineses weren’t that big into sports until the commuism took over.</p>
<p>actually… there was a Japanese American player in the NBA before they even let black people play. and yes there are asian players in the NFL… i forgot his name, i just remember that he’s Vietnamese… so please don’t generalize that asians are “bad” at american sports. it’s terrible… one day i was sitting in spanish class and this white kid next to me was like “so jeff what kinda sports do asian people play ?” i was like ***… please let’s not perpetuate racist stereotypes</p>
<p>really, wow I didn’t know that, I am going to go look!!! WOW! I can’t believe it!</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.asiansportsnet.com/football/history_nfl.html[/url]”>http://www.asiansportsnet.com/football/history_nfl.html</a></p>
<p>heres the link, 
yeah, asians taking over the NFL!!!</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.asiansportsnet.com/articles/colorbarrier.html[/url]”>http://www.asiansportsnet.com/articles/colorbarrier.html</a></p>
<p>haha i got beat by locke913… grr CC like froze when i was trying to submit my post. haha :)</p>
<p>Probably more important than all of the above factors in explaining today’s Asian children’s success in the sciences and engineering is the source of today’s American Asian population: immigration beginning in the 1960s. </p>
<p>Starting in the 1960s (coincidentally about 10 years into the Cold War), the United States loosened a lot of immigration controls for Chinese (mainly Taiwan until the 1980s when immigration from China occured in greater amounts), Korean, and Indian (beginning in the 1980s, I think; correct me if I’m wrong) students. Basically, what happened was that lots of college students from China/Taiwan, Korea, and India came to study in the United States, and stayed after finishing their degrees. It just so happens that the vast majority of these students came to study the sciences and engineering, possibly because of language barriers, but also because it was easier to get funding in the form of teaching/research assitanceships and fellowships in the sciences and engineering as opposed to in the humanities and social sciences. </p>
<p>Now, often children will share similar interests with their parents. Parents are often inclined to advise their children to pursue careers in fields similar to their own careers because they understand their fields very well. So often you see sons and daughters doing similar jobs to the mothers and fathers–lawyers’ kids often become lawyers, doctors’ kids often become doctors, teachers’ kids often become teachers, etc. (This occurs in many different kinds of families, not just Asian ones–for example, many law firms are variations on “Johnson and Sons”). This is not to say that all people do what their parents do, but in general there appears to be a correlation.</p>
<p>Put two and two together: first, major immigration from Asia to the United States occurs; second, this immigration largely is in the form of highly educated people who come to study the sciences and engineering; third, the immigrants have kids, who often share similar interests and aptitudes with their parents.</p>
<p>Math is a universal language, while English is not. For example, if a Taiwanese kid learns about fractions in Taipei, it still looks and works the same in America. But obviously, the languages are not nearly as smooth a transition. </p>
<p>As for football, isn’t there some Asian hotshot QB at some Hawaiian university? And though he’s not a player, Norm Chow was the offensive mastermind behind the unstoppable USC Trojans (he’s been promoted to work as the offensive corrdinator of the Tennessee Titans, I think).</p>
<p>Your theory is interesting, and you make some good points, but I think you overstate the effects of the Cold War. Asian cultures have always placed a high emphasis on education. Also, as many people have already pointed out, many Asian-born Asian-Americans have a weak ability with English, and thus would gravitate towards math, science, and engineering. However, nearly all American-born Asians speak excellent English, so I think they may be following the careers of their parents or going into the careers that will make the most money. This may also account for the fact that more are pursuing non-math/science related degrees and participating in community service and extracurriculars more. </p>
<p>Also, there was not a large American-born Asian population until the 1980s and 1990s, the last years of the cold war. True, there certainly were Asian-Americans before then, but they were never more than 1% or so of the population.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned asian kids who are raised by the state to perform in sports–like you always hear that about gymnastics…well, I always wondered, what happens after they are too old to compete. While studying gymnastics or whatever, do they do regular school too, or do they start school after gymnastics? Are they given a pension for the rest of their lives?</p>
<p>I don’t think locke is arguing that the Cold War brought about Asian emphasis on learning…he’s trying to say that the Cold War made math, science, and music popular with Asian students.</p>
<p>I think he may have a point. When Korea had just gotten over the Korean War, it was severly impoverished. Compounded with the after-effects of Japanese colonial rule, some estimates say that 1/4 to 1/2 of the population died within a 10-20 year period. South Korea came under the nuclear umbrella of the United States, while North Korea did so under the Soviet Union. Both North and South tried hard to build up their heavy industries, both as a means to increase national wealth and also to build up military power in the event of another Korean War. This lead to a heavy emphasis on math & science, and the United States and Soviet Union encouraged this kind of industrial development with loans, subsidies, and transfer of technology (weapons, heavy industry, chemical, etc).</p>
<p>Math & science became the most popular majors in college, and many graduates started to come to the United States to do graduate work in those fields. Many stayed in the U.S. after their studies as skilled immigrant workers, and pushed their children to do well in math & science as well.</p>
<p>Currently, South Korean universities consist, on average, of 40-50% math/science/engineering majors. Humanities, social sciences, and other non-technical majors are severely underrepresented. However, the trend is changing as engineers and scientists can no longer find jobs in the economic downturn. Now, political science, foreign affairs, economics, and law are beginning to become more popular. Many students look to become government officials or lawyers rather than scientists and engineers (with the exception of doctor, which is still the most popular job).</p>