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<p>Be well, my friend.</p>
<p>Thanks, appreciate it.</p>
<p>Shellybean, I figured that since you are a GA resident, my suggestion is something you have probably thought about, but considering the options, sometimes the best fit college is in people’s backyards. </p>
<p>Since state colleges admit mostly from in state, the student population is going to reflect the politics of the state. A large state college will have a variety of students but would also have conservative students if located in a red state and a student would find a niche at any part of the political range. There are other options. A recent poster here had a top student who got a scholarship at Old Miss, and felt it was the best fit for his conservative views, but had that student been a GA resident, he would have the Hope/Zell Miller at a GA college. Clemson and U South Carolina would work. Elon, Furman, Wofford are possibilities, but UGA with the Hope/Zell Miller would be hard to surpass in terms of academics and cost. </p>
<p>Just out of sheer curiosity, which Ivy League would you say is the most conservative? I know none are really that right-leaning, but if you had to pick one.</p>
<p>My personal experience was this:</p>
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<li><p>I am (and was, even at 18) right-of-center, at least economically. Pretty centrist socially. So, I’m probably best described as a moderate Republican.</p></li>
<li><p>I spent four years at UW-Madison, which is known as quite a liberal school. </p></li>
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<p>I can count on one hand the number of times I felt uncomfortable due to political actions or discussions. I had a blast at UW and gladly received my BA there.</p>
<p>I would imagine that most schools, even the small ones, have enough diversity – cultural, political, socioeconomic, religious, etc. – that anyone will find a niche into which to fit.</p>
<p>Even beyond that – I think life is more about how you treat others than what you believe. I had a lot of liberal friends at UW… and their friendship overrode any politically based angst we might have shared. </p>
<p>In every place and among every group of people, there are the usual handful of jerks. Jerks from Boston, New York, Los Angeles; white, black, Latino, Asian jerks; Republican, independent, and Democrat jerks.</p>
<p>THOSE are the people to avoid. Because the rest of us can generally get along despite our differences.</p>
<p>@badgerstate probably Dartmouth due to a slightly larger Conservative student body </p>
<p>Speaking from experience as a University of South Carolina student, Clemson and USC (we call it that here with no apologies to Southern California), our student body is incredibly conservative, but there are a lot of liberal professors. In my time here, granted I am involved in greek life which is more conservative, I have not met anyone that I’d describe as liberal in comparison to those I knew back in Wisconsin. The most liberal students here at USC are the ones coming from the east coast and many of them tend to conform to more conservative ideologies when they start attending classes here. </p>
<p>You see a lot of students here with ‘Reagan/Bush’ t shirts and we even have a George Bush lifesize cutout in our fraternity house. Kind of funny, but it puts into perspective what life is like here at USC. I’d be shocked to find a more conservative state school. </p>
<p>Nicely put, prezbucky!</p>
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<p>Call me crazy, but I pushed my left-of-center kid to attend a relatively conservative school, not to change his beliefs, but to challenge him to hone his ideas and to learn from others with whom he may have fundamental disagreements.</p>
<p>Part of becoming an educated person, IMHO, is learning to listen respectfully to all reasonable opinions, to avoid stereotyping others, and to being willing to change a position if you discover your long-held beliefs don’t stand up to scrutiny. </p>
<p>I consider myself quite conservative (small “c”) in my private life. I pay my taxes, obey the speed limit, and try hard to be honest in business dealings. But I try to be liberal towards others, by giving most folks the benefit of the doubt; even when they offend me (“To err is human; to forgive, divine.”); choosing to put the needs of others above my own, whenever possible; and, in general, trying to follow the Golden Rule. And that’s what I expect from my kids as well. So far, they’re doing okay.</p>
<p>My suggestion for all you high school students out there is to keep an open mind about your future classmates AND your professors and remember that the more you learn, the more you realize there’s much in life you really don’t know. And avoid labeling yourself or allowing others to label you; let your actions speak for themselves. Vehemently disagree with someone without casting aspersions on that person’s character or moral fitness. Encourage the free exchange of ideas wherever possible. Fight censorship, even when it benefits your “cause.” Be okay being offended now and then, but try hard not to intentionally offend others.</p>
<p>Your four years in college can be some of the best of your life; don’t leave the exact same person you were when you arrived. </p>
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<p>Loved your post–just want to point out that we liberal people pay taxes, obey the speed limit and try hard to be honest in business dealings too. :)</p>
<p>Of course, @sally305! I didn’t mean to suggest otherwise. I only wanted to point out that trying to define oneself or others by ascribing labels can be very misleading. One can be “conservative” and not “a right-wing Republican Conservative” or “liberal” but not beholden to a particular left-wing political ideology or even a Democrat. </p>
<p>And I’d like to report that my southern-born and bred University of South Carolina engineering son is smart, thoughtful, considerate of others, and is a liberal. As are many, many of his friends at USC. And, no, he is not in a fraternity. </p>
<p>I have a very liberal daughter. The politics of the schools she is applying to has absolutely no relevance in her college choices. In fact many of the schools on her list have been described on this thread as conservative. So, I’ve been pretty amused and shocked by the justifications to pursue a school matching certain political persuasions. I am not saying that people should not have the right to pursue their politically matched schools, but that would be so limiting. Seriously, schools would be off of the list because of politics and not the merits of their quality.</p>
<p>People will have various opinions about this, and one of them is that choosing a more conservative school is limiting. (or the opposite). It may or may not be, but as long as there are different colleges, then people can make a choice. Even if I personally would or would not make that same choice, I can respect others’ rights to make it. </p>
<p>Sometimes people want to choose a college because it is a different environment- and that doesn’t have to resemble the rest of society. I would even say that no college resembles the larger population as where else are students selected out of a pool of 18-22 year olds and grouped together in such a manner with the adults all being professors? IMHO, I think this is in some ways limiting as well. Sometimes people choose a college in order to support their personal views, such as a religious college. </p>
<p>It would be one thing if both sides of the political spectrum were respectful of each other, but a short glance at FB would say otherwise- there are plenty of cruel memes and people arguing to the point that they unfriend each other. I think it is to the point that some students could feel uncomfortable on a campus that was predominantly of the opposite persuasion. </p>
<p>So why not support a variety of learning environments, so people can have choices, and keep this list informative for those who want it? </p>
<p>“So why not support a variety of learning environments, so people can have choices, and keep this list informative for those who want it?”</p>
<p>My only concern is the fact that the wall that separates us gets thicker when the college decisions are made based upon politics. There are fewer and fewer opportunities after college to be exposed to other ways of thinking that aren’t in arguments or a television news reports. I’ve only witnessed our country spiral down the abyss over politics and that concerns me for our future. </p>
<p>We could probably agree that we are (probably?) all classical liberals engaging in this discussion. That large umbrella covers probably 90% of Dems and repubs – all but the most economically oppressive Dems and socially oppressive repubs.</p>
<p>I think few people choose a college on the basis of politics alone. One recent poster was looking for a college where his son would feel comfortable with his beliefs, yet a primary consideration was finances. The son ended up with a large scholarship at a public school in a conservative region of the US. I still think that student will be exposed to many ideas where he is at. It seems to me that families make choices for many reasons: finances, location, academic, point of view, and many colleges are large enough to have students with different ideas.</p>
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I feel quite sure that is correct. I think the only exception (and I suspect this is rare) is if the school is so well known for being far right or far left, that could dominate a decision.</p>
<p>Sorta kinda along those lines, there was a article in the Chronicles of Higher Education today about the University of Colorado. It said that most students felt that their beliefs and positions were respected except for politics. <a href=“http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/survey-finds-inclusive-climate-at-u-of-colo-but-some-see-room-for-improvement/80747?cid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en”>http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/survey-finds-inclusive-climate-at-u-of-colo-but-some-see-room-for-improvement/80747?cid=at&utm_source=at&utm_medium=en</a> The important paragraph is:</p>
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<p>Just to comment on that 17% number, I don’t think that can be attributed to the demographics of the state. Colorado is pretty famously purple, and although young people do, of course, tend to vote Democrat more than their parents, that is still a pretty skewed number. Now of course the school doesn’t select the student body based on political party, so they don’t control that like they do the faculty. So it must (?) be self selection by the students based on the reputation of the school. Or it must (?) be that for the students that has been there more than a semester or two, they have been “indoctrinated” by that oh so liberal faculty. Or…what?</p>
<p>Discuss amongst yourselves.</p>