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What happened to the “I guess I’m old-fashioned but a candidate’s private life (referring to Hill and Bill) are not of interest to me” line of thinking?</p>
<p>Guess it depends on which candidate one is talking about. :)</p>
<p>I agree with SJmom 100%. The fascination people have with the private lives of other people amazes me.</p>
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<p>I’m not asking about their sex life!</p>
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<p>I’ll leave it to other to comment on the impact of incurable cancer on political poll ratings. I think I’d probably get in trouble opining on that topic.</p>
<p>That’s disingenuous…the discussion on another thread about their relationship went much deeper than their sex life. </p>
<p>I think it’s rather funny that some are so high and mighty condemning discussion about Hill and Bill and Edwards…these same people won’t be able to stop talking about Rudy’s and Newt’s private lives come election time.</p>
<p>With Bill the genie was let out of the bottle and we can’t put it back: everything will be open for discussion–as long as it’s fair and people don’t cry “sex!” for some candidates and others not, I don’t have a problem with it.</p>
<p>Just in the interest of giving folks a better sense of Stage IV cancer prognosis, the percentages of folks in Mrs. Edwards’ position living more than 5 years is well better than 16% or one quarter, as have been previously cited. The first number is an aggregate, established before the “re-staging” of diagnoses (done in 2002), under which conditions like Mrs. Edwards’ were considered Stage III. The second number is the survival rate for metastatic cancer which, however, more usually, has more than single organ involvement, and, more importantly, includes a very high proportion of patients who were never previously seen, including those who lack health insurance or have insufficient insurance, or no regular “medical home”. The medical prognosis for Mrs. Edwards is likely significantly better than that.</p>
<p>Of course, I have no idea what else (if anything) they found or may find. But, from the little we know, her prognosis is better, maybe significantly better, than what has been described here.</p>
<p>Mrs. Mini is doing fine! Her double mastectomy went well, she was out of the hospital within 24 hours. The lymph node pathology came back wholly negative, the cancer in the breast itself had shrunk to 8 millimeters (smaller than a freckle), and she is healing well. She is actually going back to work (part-time) on Monday. Now 12 weeks of taxol, and more operations to follow, but prognosis is excellent.</p>
<p>Thanks to all for keeping us in your thoughts.</p>
<p>Mini:</p>
<p>Thanks for the update. I’m glad things are continuing to improve for your wife.</p>
<p>I would have absolutely hated for my H and my then quite young kids to stay on the couch for the next several months after my surgeries being sympathetic. There’s nothing more calculated to drive me around the bend. I quite liked being able to have a normal working life as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Mini, Best wishes.</p>
<p>echoing padad-- best wishes to you and Mrs. Mini.</p>
<p>Yay, for Mrs. Mini! This is wonderful news.</p>
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The hallmark criterion of those with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a total and complete lack of empathy. It is really quite chilling. Interesting that you can see narcissism in others, ID. A glance into the looking glass…or the pond…might prove enlightening to you.</p>
<p>I don’t know. I think that I’m showing a little more emphathy for Ms. Edwards and her two young children than I would be if I were all rah-rah about her husband running off for campaign fundraisers in NY and Los Angeles.</p>
<p>To me, the emphathetic view would be a little quiet family time for the Edwards…maybe just for a couple of days out of the limelight.</p>
<p>ID~</p>
<p>According to dictionary.com, empathy is:</p>
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This is <em>not</em> what you are describing. In fact, you are describing holding others to YOUR feelings, thoughts, and attitudes. You are certainly making no effort to understand or identify with THEIRS. </p>
<p>You may be expressing what in your mind is a “concern,” but your manner of expressing it is cruel and unwarranted. Your dispassionate (and perhaps inaccurate) statement about Elizabeth Edwards’s chances for five-year survival are really disconcerting, conveyed as they have been with no regard for this woman or her family but used only as a weapon against their very personal and, I’m sure, difficult choices. To me, this is kinda one of those situations in which the old adage comes in handy…“If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.”</p>
<p>Your response empathetic? I think not. ~berurah</p>
<p>Thanks for the update, Mini and wishing your whole family lots of healing and comfort vibes!</p>
<p>Thanks for the good news, Mini. Will continue to keep Ms. Mini in thoughts and prayers!</p>
<p>I agree with Berurah, ID. Your cavalier dismissal of her own wishes in favor of what she “should” want, is disengenuous and more than a bit chauvinistic.</p>
<p>“Public Takes Up Pros and Cons Of Edwards Bid: Illness Raises Questions of Love and Ambition”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/24/us/politics/24illness.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/24/us/politics/24illness.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin</a></p>
<p>berurah & garland - hear hear !</p>
<p>mini - all the best to you and E. God bless.</p>
<p>The NY Times endorses Clinton. Even though the article states that the Edwards’ personal business is just that, there really was no need for this article. It provides no value to anyone. It probably doesn’t even help sell papers.
Another attempt to sensationalize a non-issue… :mad:</p>
<p>What I would really like to see is for the paper to dissect some of the <em>questionable</em> personal decisions made by Ms. Rhodam (ummmm…Mrs. Clinton), and let the public determine if these were for “love or ambition” ?</p>
<p>I’m sure the Times could interview some folks with varying opinions on this topic!! :rolleyes:</p>
<p>mini~</p>
<p>Joining the others in many well wishes for Ellen! Thanks for the update…Ellen sounds like a resilient woman with a positive, upbeat attitude. Hope her recovery continues to go wonderfully. ~berurah</p>