The Fallacies on CC that Won't Stop Being Posted

@jym626 - lots of people lurk for a long time before commenting.

What does GPA matter? No student deserves to go away to college. And even if you deserved it most people rarely get what they deserve. Most of us just get what we get and make do with that.

@thumper1 - UTexas engineering did have a requirement at one time to complete Calculus. :slight_smile:

I have read this claim before, but when I checked the school’s web site at the time, I only found a calculus readiness requirement:

http://www.engr.utexas.edu/undergraduate/admissions/calculus

Note that having passed an AP or IB exam or college course which covers calculus does satisfy the requirement, but other means of satisfying the requirement (SAT score, ACT score, ALEKS score), do not require calculus (only sufficiently strong knowledge of precalculus math).

@ucbalumnus - 4 years ago, the requirement read different. It had an application requirement and a graduation requirement. The graduation requirement was for a 4 on Calculus test and if not met, an ALEKS test instead.

205 -Students with GPAs under 3.75 are a lesser life-form who should not even bother pursuing higher education.

But ALEKS tests cover precalculus material (i.e. readiness for calculus). I.e. if you already passed calculus (AP exam, IB exam, college course), you were presumed to have been ready for calculus (since you already passed it), but otherwise, they want to test you (with the ALEKS test) to see if you are ready for calculus 1, right?

I am not exactly sure why a 4 on AP calculus test should be perceived as equal a to a test measuring precalculus level material? I had assumed the test should measure the same level of work.

The presumption is that someone who has passed calculus has passed the lower level “ready for calculus” criterion and thus does not need to take a test for the latter.

Sure there are lurkers. This wasn’t one of those times.

206 It's not impressive at all for somebody to be good enough at a sport to be able to compete in it at the Division 1 level in college

207 If you properly teach your children about handling x (money, drinking, sex, whatever) it is a guarantee that they will handle x just like you taught them.

  1. You MUST take all AP courses if your school offers them. Otherwise you are doomed.
  1. There's no difference between elites and top tier colleges and your local directional with its 65% graduate rate—especially if your child wants to go to medical or law school. Only GPA matters, so go to the cheapest college.

More fallacies:

209: "Only an elite college is worth attending or paying for."

210: "A college's graduation rate is your personal chance of graduating."

211: "Law and medical schools care mostly about the prestige of your undergraduate college."

212: "If you choose a mid-tier liberal arts college in the middle of nowhere, you are doomed."

213: "Don't even worry about your family's EFC. If you apply to enough schools, someone's going to give you a full ride."

  1. There's a major difference between medical schools. The doctor who went to Harvard Med has a vastly different life from the doctor in the same specialty who went to State U Med.
  1. On the flip side of 214: If you want to get a residency in cardiology at the Cleveland Clinic, it is just as easy to do that coming from any medical school. This is a fallacy, right?

Of course, isn’t it a fallacy that:

216: "A high school senior can plan for the elite of elite school and career directions like a specific medical school followed by a medical residency in a specific medical specialty in a specific clinic." (rather than aiming for them, but being realistic about the chances and making suitable backup plans)

For the hundredth time on CC, med schools teach the same standardized curriculum and require their students to pass the same set of standardized tests. And residency directors know that.