@Zinhead interesting point about the Catholic schools. At least for me – growing up devout Catholic the 70s/80s – ND was considered a regional, Midwest Catholic school – people I knew who wanted a Catholic university experience went to Villanova or Fordham or other east coast Catholic schools. ND seemed to develop a national presence in the late 80s/90s. Georgetown was in our collective consciousness for its foreign service program but not much else.