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Well, what were they supposed to do…stop/question all of Duke’s white students? That begins to sound like our anti-terrorist airport policies.</p>
<p>speaking of anti terroist airport policies
<a href=“http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm[/url]”>http://www.komotv.com/stories/37150.htm</a>
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<p>Middlebury College President Ronald Leibowitz called a student forum to talk about the issue. But he says Walker WAS treated fairly: “I don’t think the students in the audience had the evidence the judicial board had. It’s a confidential process and closed process, and when you have two judicial boards coming out with the conclusion that they did, it’s likely they saw evidence others did not.”</p>
<p>Also consider this: O’Neil was convicted May 10, and was denied the right to graduate more than two weeks ago. If this is such an egregious case of discrimination, why hasn’t this story been picked up by the Times or the Post or the Herald? Especially considering that O’Neil has a high powered civil rights attorney who loves to grab headlines? There’s a reason that you’ve found this story only in the Village Voice, and not the Nightly News with Brian Williams.</p>
<p>Damned if you do… Anybody could have a plausible reason for carrying contraband into an airport. Whom do you beleive and let go–somebody that “looks” harmless?? There have been some pretty average looking female terrorists over the years. The SLA gang comes to mind–mostly white middleclass types including a cheerleader. I think the words chosen may have been overly enthusiastic but I applaud the work. She will be more careful in the future. $500 won’t kill her and she can get off the list with some work.</p>
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Do you know the reason? You seem tuned in.</p>
<p>Hey, I don’t have a clue as to what happened. For all I know, they were gay lovers, and Hawkins wasn’t ready to come out of the closet.</p>
<p>I have no reason to believe that Middlebury acted in bad faith, though I can easily believe they could be driven to a wrong conclusion by factors outside the case itself. </p>
<p>But am I the only one who finds it at least a little bit disturbing that, after four years at such an excellent institution, a white student, after a 5 to 7 minute face-to-face altercation, when faced with identifying the itinerant sleeping felon, pretty much comes to the conclusion that “they” all look the same?</p>
<p>No Driver, there supposed to get a better description. Would you be willing to accept that as a description of a white perpetrator? Kinda hard to stop all the white students, isn’t it? But, in your example, if I was harmed by a white students and said “white, 20s, jeans and hoodie”, would you support questioning 10k white students? It’s ridiculous. </p>
<p>Sokkermom, funny that you were the first to respond - and quickly(claiming that nobody responded). Not sure what you had in mind by posting my quote about Duke. I was disturbed that such idiocy never made the CC discussions. Just so happens that the professor who told me about the cross burnings also told me about the mass-student questioning at Duke. </p>
<p>It’s funny that you tell me that racism isn’t that prevalent in the same post that mentions KKK cross burnings in Durham. Kind of like the elephant in the room…</p>
<p>Quote: " I was disturbed that such idiocy never made the CC discussions. "</p>
<p>Probably because the incident had nothing at all to do with any particular college. </p>
<p>The reason I mentioned the post about the kkk is because it appeared to me at the time I originally read it that someone was trying to create a racist issue at a college campus, when the issue was in the town. It seemed to me that the college, which happens to be located in Durham, had nothing at all to do with the incident, nor did any of the students at the school. </p>
<p>The Middlebury issue is not the first time that you have tried to stimulate the racism issue related to a college campus.</p>
<p>“Kind of like the elephant in the room…” ??</p>
<p>I’ve tried to stimulate a racist issue? Maybe I’m a little more sensitive to racist issues because I live outside of the comfort zone - so I see things from a bit of a different prespective and convey my opinions- which isn’t a crime in some circles.</p>
<p>I’ve noticed that not everything discussed on CC is related to colleges campuses (what did the beach house discussion have to do with college?)- and when something as major as cross-burnings happens in a huge college town, the the concern for the college and it’s students is only natural. </p>
<p>Do you think the students and professors at Duke are ignoring the recent cross-burnings and distribution of KKK material? They aren’t.</p>
<p>But, if you would feel better by ignoring it … feel free!</p>
<p>What a horrible turn of events…something similar happened at my school–another rural LAC. My friend, who happens to be tall, muscle bound, and african american, got drunk about 2 years ago and wandered down his freshmen hall and entered the wrong room. The campus is so open and in the middle of nowhere that no one locks their doors. He thought the room was his.
The story takes a turn for the worse however because it was parent’s weekend. The room he had entered was that of a white girl with her mom sleeping on the floor. My friend thus, entered the room, and found the girl’s mother sleeping in a crumpled sleeping bad at the foot of the bed.
He tried to climb over the sleeping bag and get to what he thought was his bed but as soon as he stepped over, the mother woke up and screamed.
The next morning, she claimed that a scary black man had tried to rape her and that was the last time I saw my friend.</p>
<p>Ceruleanne, please post the published details of this interesting case. Thanks.</p>
<p>Where was it?</p>
<p>Kenyon, apparently. Just post anything Ceruelanne, a clip from the student paper, the local paper, CNN, you know, anything that provides a smidgen of proof that yet another oppressed young black man was cruelly expelled from a left-leaning liberal arts college because of an uptight middle-class white mom. Sheesh, talk about stereotyping.</p>
<p>I found rape cases ( which involved “race” and where countersuits were filed) at Kenyon but without knowing the students name it is a hard search.
In the article I found- the incident occured in November of 1999- but the newspaper article is dated 9-20-2001
<a href=“The Kenyon Collegian”>The Kenyon Collegian;
<p>Wow, now everyone has to prove their anecdote before it’s accepted…or is that only related to this topic? </p>
<p>I don’t know what to believe about the original focus of this thread - the article. But, I’m sure not naive enough to think it’s not possible. </p>
<p>Must be nice to be so insulated.</p>
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Yes, well, these are just anonymous message boards where anyone can spout whatever hogwash they want in order to bolster whatever opinion they happen to espouse. The ability to back it up separates the wheat from the chaff, sometimes. And a student who “disappears” because of an incident in the dorms should be pretty easy to document, if true.</p>
<p>I am not naive enough to think that what you read in the paper is halfway accurate, or even half of the story.
The things that I have first hand knowledge of, even when I have spoken to reporters myself, have been portrayed so differently than what really happened that I don’t really believe anything anymore
You would have to have 10 different articles from widely different sources to even start to get an idea of what happened, but unless it is a really big story, you are probably only going to find local coverage that will last a day or so.</p>
<p>EK4, to which case are you referring?</p>
<p>I agree with EK and everyone who says we don’t know what the original case is about or why the outcome is so drastic. I think it was more of a homosexual/straight student conflict.</p>
<p>That’s all. This isn’t worth upsetting this community. I haven’t concluded that there was a problem with the management of the issue. The root-casue, no matter what the source, is probably very upsetting.</p>
<p>I’m not upset, and I hope no one else is either. It’s an interesting topic. Is the Middlebury case a gay issue? The VV article sure seemed to play a race card, but are we really talking about a case of gay sexual assault or something similar instead?</p>