<p>I agree people could have various motives in choosing what they wear, but if they care at all how they come across to others, they should take into consideration how their particular choice could be interpreted by various people (at least those they care about). If they don’t, then fine. I personally don’t care. Some people I guess would choose to wear a Princeton sweatshirt at their Harvard interview “just because” or maybe they would dress skimpily at a parents’ party just because it’s hot that day.</p>
<p>Honestly, my Princeton friends are impressive by any measure (smarts, looks, charisma, propriety), without ever revealing they went to Princeton.</p>
<p>I agree, fauxmaven, that people who actually DID go to HYP people are typically reluctant to advertise it in public. Some of you go ahead and fool yourselves thinking if you wear a Princeton sweatshirt, most will assume you’re wearing it “just because” but even Princeton students don’t like wearing it because they REALIZE how most will interpret it, as bragging.</p>
<p>Gosh, the CC crowd on this thread is a little socially inept, I have to say.</p>
<p>**I’m not judgmental of anybody. I repeatedly said I don’t care what people do, though I find some of their decisions kinda sad. However, it’s none of my business really. It doesn’t hurt to be aware of how their choices could be interpreted by various people though. You will find that in professional communities, most people wear plain or neutral outfits. </p>
<p>I’m gay, but I noticed when guys wear Harvard shirts to a bar, girls are not impressed and think he’s pompous/insecure/using his Harvard affiliation to get attention. I imagine these girls must be thinking…well, he can’t get attention on his own? The good-looking Harvard grads don’t need to do that though. They can get attention on their own.</p>
<p>I did not mean to pass any judgment. In my first post, I was just making the observation that uglier people are more likely to wear HYP apparel, period. That’s it-- it’s just an observation. I’m sorry if I struck a few chords in the process.**</p>
<p>I totally get what you’re saying. It’s kind of like people who post over and over on CC that they went to Princeton, and they really, really hate when obviously non-Princeton people wear their stuff. Especially ugly people.</p>
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<p>I usually go with my gut when responding to posts on CC. I guess it’s not always the best mantra, but sometimes you just can’t help yourself, ya know?</p>
<p>Is it possible that you have an aversion to “uglier people” and so are more likely to notice what they’re wearing and judge it negatively?</p>
<p>Really, guy - you’re young, good-looking, at Princeton - can’t you cut the less fortunate some slack? FYI: making mean-spirited comments about ugly people and their presumed emotional shortcomings is not going to win you many fans on a board for people who’ve outgrown adolescence.</p>
<p>I’m thinking you’ll be happier in the long run if you just walk past people you don’t know without noting the degree of their attractiveness compounded by what their T-shirts say. You don’t want to walk into a mall fountain or something because you’re paying attention to extraneous stuff.</p>
<p>* totally get what you’re saying. It’s kind of like people who post over and over on CC that they went to Princeton, and they really, really hate when obviously non-Princeton people wear their stuff. Especially ugly people.*</p>
<p>Because ya know then passerby may assume that the * real* Princeton student, got * their* sweatshirt, at Goodwill- & that would be…just wrong!
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<p>LOL emeraldkity, I think maybe you struck the true chord of this thread. </p>
<p>You have inspired me to perform a service for humanity and start a 12 step program for the ugly among us, who insist on using Princeton to try to overcome their ugliness. It simply must be stopped.</p>
<p>Perhaps you could include those in Boston who don’t ride the red line which everyone knows is “Gods subway” (according to another even more idiotic thread) Imagine the depths of despair for those on the orange line or even gasp the green line. My DS lives in Eastie and is subjected to the lowest of low, the blue line along with all the other ugly working people.</p>
<p>Nychomie – thank you for pointing out what it’s like in “professional communities.”. I never would have known otherwise; I would have thought that denim overalls and Keds were de rigueur, but now I know.</p>
<p>Well ebeeeee, that’s a common misconception amongst the ugly, and just serves to illustrate the depth of the problem with the ugly and their desire to flaunt ivy-wear. The most elite go to Harvard and Yale. The most elitist go to Princeton. </p>
<p>Please join my 12 step group. You obviously have a problem.</p>
<p>Have to tell you that I woke up at 5am this morning (which is normal for a weekday, but WAY too early on a Saturday) and grabbed the iPad to catch up on my reading hoping to go back to sleep. This thread had me laughing so hard (quietly) that I am happy we have one of those tempurpedic-type mattresses that prevented me from waking up H!</p>
<p>The fact that the OP **feels the need to respond in bold ** and thinks he is inciting the parents with all of his threads on the Parent forum is also a bit endearing.</p>
<p>You all (minus the OP) are the most entertaining group!</p>
<p>That’s because people tend to misread/misunderstand my points. I don’t know if it’s just age catching up to you guys, but in any case, it’s perfectly ok! </p>
<p>I knew when I started this thread I wouldn’t get a favorable response, so I was expecting all of this. I can take it! I know some people take personal offense, but honestly, there is inequality in life, including in the looks department, and you should just learn to deal with it. And like I’ve said so many times, I was simply making an OBSERVATION, not a judgment.</p>
<p>I think your assumption that all Ivy League grads base their worth on the school they attended is mistaken. That may be your experience with some of your friends and maybe even your own personal experience, but it certainly hasn’t been my experience with the the Ivy League grads I’ve known.</p>
<p>One of my basic rules to live by is “Don’t take offense where none was intended.” If you are sure that someone is lording their Ivy League status over others, be offended. But merely wearing a shirt in public, without anything more, may not be meant as an offense. </p>
<p>We parents on CC are not socially inept (well, we all have our moments…). But we have had years of experience dealing with people. It isn’t that hard for us to spot someone who is basing his or her self worth on something external–like being an Ivy League grad, owning a Mercedes or living in a certain zip code. But the mere fact of being an Ivy League grad, owning a Mercedes or living in a certain zip code does not mean that a person is a prestige whore who thinks that makes them better than the “riff-raff.”</p>
<p>Being associated with my Ph.D. advisor (who had gotten his Ph.D. at Stanford under a Nobel Laureate) and my postdoc advisor (who had gotten his Ph.D. at Caltech under another Nobel Laureate) does not make me to be the next one in line to get my Nobel Prize! :)</p>
<p>Ah yes, it’s obviously old age, though don’t rule out ugliness. Homie, you continue to introduce topics of such relevance and import. It is clear that Princeton knows how pick 'em. </p>
<p>By the way people, can you help me out? I am looking worse than usual today. It’s a bad hair day and the bags under my eyes are especially big. On the plus side, my wrinkles are less obvious thanks to the huge boil on my forehead (the doctor says he can remove it with only minimal bone loss). So, under the circumstances, should I wear Princeton or Yale?</p>