<p>maybe in terms of just position in terms of league. I can’t imagine anyone in there right minds who would try to compare berkeley to columbia (as much as berkeley students will try to persuade you to the contrary citing that their graduate programs are world class, the truth is that they’re not ivies, nor are they close to being one)</p>
<p>as i was saying above, UCLA and Berkeley would <em>realistically</em> be compared to brown or cornell. additionally, even in terms of position, berkeley wouldn’t be two positions above UCLA, but 1. so the better comparison would be berkeley is princeton and UCLA is Columbia (if such a comparison could be made) but it would probably be like berkeley is Darmouth and UCLA is like brown.</p>
<p>realistically speaking, Stanford is probably more like Columbia than like Harvard. (i’d say the rankings reflect this pretty well.)</p>