<p>Here are the “12 Commitments” in the briefest form I’ve found. There is more detail available.</p>
<p>Be on the offensive on the “Terrorists War on the U.S.”
End illegal immigration; secure borders, identify every non-citizen; id cards
Fiscal discipline and cut wasteful Washington spending
Cut taxes and reform tax code
Impose accountability in Washington
Lead America toward energy independence
Give Americans more control over, and access to, healthcare with affordable and portable free market solutions
Increase adoptions, decrease abortions, protect quality of life for our children
Reform the legal system and appoint strict constructionist judges
Every community in U.S. prepared for terrorist attacks and national disasters
Access to quality education to every child in America by giving real school choice to parents
Expand American involvement in the global economy and strengthen our reputation around the world</p>
<p>There are huge differences with Hillary here–even more when the policies are fleshed out, I am sure. School choice, reforming the legal system, constructionist judges, awareness of a real terrorist threat, community preparedness, and health care are the biggest issues for me personally.</p>
<p>Well you can keep hoping that this is all there is. Good luck though, since I don’t think think the guy and his staff are brain dead, even if he’s not the smartest woman in the world.</p>
<p>Income and wealth have been being redistributed from the poor and middle class to the wealthy for 30 years, and now any attempt to restore the historical balance of wealth between different economic strata makes you a commie? And you guys can forget about trying to drag HH back to the context of HRC’s comments - she doesn’t care. All that matters is the quick 'n dirty sound bite.</p>
<p>That’s interesting you should say that, kluge, because I just sat through the health care video on Hillary’s website. Would you like me to recap it for you? I took notes.</p>
<p>I didn’t use the word commie, btw.</p>
<p>I also posted her Shared Prosperity video so viewers could see her speak for herself and draw *their own conclusions<a href=“which,%20btw,%20may%20just%20be%20different%20from%20yours”>/i</a>.</p>
<p>Garland asked me a question and I tried to answer it.</p>
<p>Some day maybe you could clue us in as to why your side tends to be so nasty.</p>
<p>HH–what I mean is, could you (and i’m asking a lot, I know) explain what’s left about any particular positions (rather than listing a lot of issues that you think she’s left on.) I"m not getting that from your posts (maybe it’s me :)).</p>
<p>Here’s a straight-up question for you HH - since 1980, the average income of a 30 year old man has declined (adjusted for inflation) compared to the income of a man who was born 30 years earlier - the first time that has happened in our lifetimes, or the lifetimes of our parents or grandparents. The income of the top 1% of our nation has more than doubled (adjusted for inflation) over that same period. In fact, the increase in wealth is logarithmic biased toward existing wealth. The rich have been getting richer. The poor have been getting poorer. The middle class have been treading water, but face higher absolute costs in those areas which directly affect families - education, health care, etc.</p>
<p>Do you just ignore these basic and incontrovertibly documented facts? Do you care? Or does repetition of right wing sound bites and complaining that anyone who points out the rude reality of contemporary America is “mean” suffice as a substitute for actually dealing with the hole the politicians you voted for have dug us?</p>
<p>Zoosermom–I am utterly fascinated by your assertion that being in favor of “the common good” makes one a left wing crazy.</p>
<p>I would love to hear that in a debate–“My opponent has demonstrated an abject failure to be a worthy candidate for president by advocating for the common good!”</p>
<p>"Zoosermom–I am utterly fascinated by your assertion that being in favor of “the common good” makes one a left wing crazy.
Garland, it was the context of declining to renew tax cuts for the common good that’s at issue because, after all, we don’t necessarily share the same view of what actually the way to achieve the “common good.” What Senator Clinton was suggesting was taking that tax revenue and spreading it around. Certainly a respectable option. I don’t share it. I think individuals should keep most of their money and spend it as they choose. Also a respectable option.</p>
<p>since 1980? True…I voted for Bill Clinton twice. However, I did not vote for Reagan either time. </p>
<p>I am not an economist. I don’t believe one needs to be in order to vote in the presidential election. I’m sure all those high school educated women who are looking to Hillary to solve their problems are not economists either. </p>
<p>I will not vote for Hillary. I have empathy for the poor and the middle class as much as any Democrat. In fact, I used to vote Democrat and my core being has not morphed into a hardened, evil “neocon.” My husband and I are not big tax complainers–that is not our most important issue by a long shot. We are more than willing to pay our share. However, I do not want Hillary’s solutions put in place to solve the problems in this country (most especially the problems in education). I do not trust her as far as I can throw her (witness people here trying to make the case she’s a centrist–against a solid voting record to the contrary, and getting miffed if people don’t lock-step agree with them). I believe she has megalomaniacal tendencies. Others who are from the left agree with me (Bill Bradley, Christopher Hitchins for example). I believe it is my right as an American citizen to make this call in the upcoming election.</p>
<p>Jeez Louise, HH. I asked what made you think she’s liberal; I didn’t hold a gun to your head and insist you vote the way I want!</p>
<p>(also, the fact that folks on the left don’t like her hardly makes your argument. OTOH, calling Hitchens a member of any particular side is problematic these days, though he mostly seems to hang with the neo-cons.)</p>
<p>I was citing those people in terms of their view of her megalomaniac tendencies–not her foreign policy. I was responding to the dads, not you, garland.</p>
<p>What makes me think she’s a liberal, or rather a self-proclaimed “progressive,” is her blindly egotistical, arrogant and secretive health care initiative (she has the scars to prove it! :)), her legal work for “children’s rights” (her “village” knows how to raise a child better than a parent him/herself), her voting record in the Senate (most especially her votes against Alito and Roberts), her advocacy for big nanny government (especially her alliance with Marc Tucker for sweeping national education “reform” aligning national standards with business-directed work-force “training,” not education, for all but the top 20% of students in order to “compete in the global economy”), her references to the collective common good and the redistribution of wealth, appeal to class and race divisions, favoring the elimination of the electoral college, to name a few. I don’t believe for one single second that Hillary doesn’t believe she knows what’s best for every single person in this country better than they do themselves, and once she’s in power, her sycophants will not dare tell her otherwise, based on reports of her past behavior.</p>
<p>Sure we have checks and balances in this country, but it’s going to take superhuman effort to keep this lady in check.</p>
<p>“With all this talk about taking peoples money away form them in the way of taxes, remember it is a question of who’s money is being taken.”</p>
<p>Mine!! For the sake of this discussion only, what income level would you consider the dividing line between whose taxes to cut and whose to raise. Your personal opinion, gut reaction, whatever. I’ll consider amnesty if we get rid of the AMT. Ok, maybe not, but we should still get rid of the AMT. Tommybill, a large part of my complaint is at the state/local level, but we do pay for that here, as well. I’ve reached the point at which I’m sick of everyone’s hand in my pocket. Oh and speaking of tax cuts, good news that the deficit is shrinking.</p>