By the time Serena started her mess with empire she was penalized by one point - not a big deal and not a match changer.
Then Serena was penalized by a game when she deliberately tried to turn the 23K crowd against empire and alter the flow of the match with the hope that her inexperienced opponent will be distracted and will not be able to close the match that she was handily winning. Serena knew exactly what she was doing but now she is presenting herself as a sexism victim.
“Did that make headlines?”
Is it making headlines because of talk of sportsmanship or is it making headlines because Serena is driving it in that direction with her vocalizing that she is a victim of sexism? The guys have incidents like this, too, but folks just move on as do the players.
Ramos might be a stickler but there is evidence he is a stickler with the male players as well as outlined here.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/09/carlos-ramos-serena-williams-tennis-umpire-us-open
http://larrybrownsports.com/tennis/umpire-carlos-ramos-history-code-violations-serena-williams/463180
Sure there are inconsistencies from match to match, umpire to umpire. Often that is the nature of sports. You see it in soccer and other sports all the time.
I’m an ardent feminist but I just don’t see this as an instance of sexism. You’ve got a player who has a history of going off on officials when she’s unhappy with her own performance and getting beat in high profile tournaments. You have an ump who is known for being a stickler for rules when umping games for both males and females. The two were combined in this final. This doesn’t make it sexism. Alize Cornet getting penalized for taking off her shirt a week back - to me that was a case of different rules applying to females. In Serena’s case with Ramos, I don’t see it as such.
“They’re generally understanding and forgiving when men do it.”
No they aren’t.
“Still, players like Venus Williams, Novak Djokovic, Andy Murray, Rafael Nadal and Nick Kyrgios have complained on court after receiving code violations from Ramos.”
“At the 2016 French Open, Venus Williams disputed an illegal coaching call, saying, “I’m 36 years old. Never in my life have I had a coaching violation. No, I don’t do that.”
“In 2017 during a fourth-round match between Nadal and Roberto Batista Agut at the French Open, Ramos penalized Nadal for two time violations, the second of which cost Nadal a point (not that it mattered much in his 6-1, 6-2, 6-2 victory).”
^see article I linked below.
I even posted the same umpire giving code violation to Djoker for doing something way less than Serena did.
A “warning” for coaching is a code violation. The reason no penalty for that was given was because it was the first violation and first violations/warning no player is penalized for. It’s the following violations that begin the penalty assessments.
She’s also been fined by the USTA for her violations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/09/sports/tennis/serena-williams-umpire-carlos-ramos-us-open.html
“because Serena is driving it in that direction with her vocalizing that she is a victim of sexism?”
Not just Serena. Some of the biggest names – men and women – in tennis are calling it sexism. Chris Evert said “I’ve been in tennis a long time, and I’ve never seen anything like it.” James Blake tweeted “I will admit I have said worse and not gotten penalized.” Andy Roddick “I’ve regrettably said worse and I’ve never gotten a game penalty.”
Another example:
WIMBLEDON, England — With rackets flying and crashing into bits, swear words screeching out, and players hugging each other and ball boys, too, it was difficult to pinpoint the exact nature of the match between Nick Kyrgios and Richard Gasquet, other than to say it was lively.
It was a match in which both players were fined, and people who showed up to Court 2 expecting to see outbursts and petulant conduct from Kyrgios were not disappointed.
Kyrgios delivered plenty of invective and odd behavior during and after the match, but the man who obliterated his racket with an overhead smash against his chair and received the biggest fine was Gasquet, the victor.
Gasquet, the No. 21 seed, received a code violation for the outburst and a $3,000 fine, but because he sent home Kyrgios, one of the most provocative players of the tournament, it was worth it in Gasquet’s eyes. He said it had actually helped him win.“
“The atmosphere briefly grew nasty, and the fans booed Kyrgios in the second set when, at 0-2, it appeared he had intentionally lost a game. That came after the chair umpire, James Keothavong, assessed a code violation against Kyrgios for bad language, which earned him a $2,000 fine.
After the code violation, Gasquet was serving, and Kyrgios lazily swatted one forehand return into the net while standing flat-footed, causing the fans to mutter. On another service return, he did not even move toward the ball, which led to boos.”
And another:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/03/kyrgios-bounces-racket-spectators-tantrum-wimbledon
“It was his third match at Wimbledon in five days, and the third time Nick Kyrgios had attracted the attention of the umpire for the wrong reasons. The rangy Australian 20-year-old was a set into his third-round victory over No7 seed Milos Raonic on Friday, when he missed a break point, span around in a rage and flung his racket so forcefully into the grass that it bounced several metres into the terraces, narrowly missing a spectator – an incident for which he received a formal warning, or code violation, from the umpire.
Two days earlier, Kyrgios had a stand-up row with a different match umpire after being reported by a linesman for muttering expletives. That came after his opening match on Monday, during which he received another code violation after refusing to play on after disputing a line call. The subsequent mutter, “dirty scum”, had not been directed at the chair, he said later.”
“Not just Serena. Some of the biggest names – men and women – in tennis are calling it sexism. Chris Evert said “I’ve been in tennis a long time, and I’ve never seen anything like it.” James Blake tweeted “I will admit I have said worse and not gotten penalized.” Andy Roddick “I’ve regrettably said worse and I’ve never gotten a game penalty.”
They didn’t get a game penalty because it wasn’t a third code violation!
More from this year at Wimby
“Nick Kyrgios was embroiled in a bizarre mid-match rules lesson as the controversial Australian blasted his way into the Wimbledon third round.
Kyrgios was in typically feisty mood during his 6-3, 6-4, 7-5 victory against Robin Haase on Thursday.
The 15th seed was given a warning for an audible obscenity by chair umpire James Keothavong after being reported by a linesman in the seventh game of the fourth set.
Initially unbothered by the decision, Kyrgios broke opponent Robin Haase serve only to stew on the incident and immediately lose serve.
He challenged Keothavong to tell the linesman to do his job and not “rat on people who are giving 100 per cent out here.”
“Watson received her penalty at a crucial moment in the third set of the doubles match on Tuesday night against Katerina Siniakova and Barbora Krejcikova, of the Czech Republic.
Leading 2-1 in the decisive set and with the score at 40-30 on their opponents’ serve, the line judge approached the chair umpire and alerted him to something that Watson had said.
But the Briton insisted she had only said ‘stupid’: ‘Is he [the line judge] joking?’ she asked the umpire before added: 'Did you hear what they [the crowd] all said?
‘They all heard me say stupid? I didn’t even say it, he’s pathetic,’ the Brit claimed.
It followed an earlier warning for slamming a ball to the ground after losing the second set, so the pair were given a point penalty that handed the game to their opponents who won 3-6, 7-6, 6-4.
German star Alexander Zverev also hit out at ‘snitching’ by slamming a linesman for reporting his mutterings to the chair umpire in his third round defeat to Latvian Ernests Gulbis.
During a changeover in the Saturday match, Zverev went up to umpire Carlos Ramos and questioned: ‘Since when can a line judge give me a warning?’
The 21-year-old, who was given a code violation, later said: 'He (the linesman) wants to feel important in a big stadium here at Wimbledon.”
So now the tennis players above don’t know what they are talking about?
I think if anyone they have the ammunition to give opinions and judgement on this matter. I imagine there are still two sides even to the professionals. But I’m seeing many professionals side with Serena.
This one happened at the infamous banana match.
“The Australian Open saw quite the upset Sunday night, with unseeded Hungarian player Timea Babos knocking off Coco Vandeweghe, the American who was the 10th seed. Babos’ 7-6 (4), 6-2 win also saw Vandeweghe (seen above at last year’s U.S. Open) get quite upset, as she slammed her racket down at one point and reportedly shouted obscenities at her opponent”
“CoCo Vandeweghe gets a point penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct as she trails a set and 1-5 to Babos on Hisense. Screamed obscenities toward Babos.”
“CoCo Vandeweghe had gotten her first code violation earlier for time violation/civil disobedience: refusing to take court without eating a banana first“
http://thecomeback.com/tennis/coco-vandeweghe-racket-obscenities.html
I’m nowhere near the expert that several here are and I respect their opinions. However, this afternoon I’m wondering why all the conversation is focused on Serena and Ramos. Where is the criticism for Patrick, Serena’s coach, in all of this? I always enjoy him when he is doing commentary on ESPN and I appreciate that he admitted that he was coaching, but admitting it and saying everyone else does it doesn’t justify doing something that is prohibited, does it? What am I missing regarding this piece of the puzzle?
I am no big fan of Serena’s, but I also wonder if she didn’t have too many expectations put on her. Multiple television ads, lots of hype from the commentators, etc. It’s asking quite a bit for someone to live up to the constant swirl around her.
“So now the tennis players above don’t know what they are talking about?
I think if anyone they have the ammunition to give opinions and judgement on this matter. I imagine there are still two sides even to the professionals. But I’m seeing many professionals side with Serena.”
Yep. Look at what they said. They weren’t given a game penalty. Which, of course is true, because they didn’t already have two code violations when they swore on court or smashed their racquets.
Look at the examples I posted where the players were given a point penalty because it was a second code violation.
Both men and women.
McEnroe got defaulted from a match at a slam because of his behavior. Kyrgios was defaulted from a match for tanking and suspended for two months.
Those things are all facts.
And now to the men’s final. May the best man (today) win!
Well…that was disappointing. Sad for JMdP. 
forehand let him down and he was just too passive at critical times.
I really hate this blue clay court. Hoping the speed it up next year.
But, I had my best tourney so yay me!
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Djokovic is my favorite player, so I am glad he is getting back to his usual form. But I really like Del Potro. He is the only player that I had for Djokovic to beat, and the only player I do not mind beating Djokovic. I hope Juan Martin has many more opportunities to win majors in the coming years.
I don’t expect everyone to agree, but for me the response to this is Amen and Amen. People want to say Serena is the GOAT and she is a great, but I’m not sure she eclipses Martina. I think Martina has done more for the sport and for women than Serena has at this point, but I’m willing to give her time to see if she can measure up.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/10/opinion/martina-navratilova-serena-williams-us-open.html
Both deserve their stature in tennis, IMO. But I really like and agree with Navratilova’s piece.
I agree with Navratilova, too.
Are Women Penalized More Than Men in Tennis? Data Says No
It’s a bit simplistic. Men have more fines, but they also have more qualifying games and therefore more fines to accumulate. Also, men just may commit fineable offenses more, and there’s no way of finding statistics on that.
The red flag is that coaching violations are higher for women, the only one that is. That’s what started the downward spiral in Serena’s match.
Also, how common are penalties that cost a player a whole game? There must be very few of them, and even fewer in Grand Slam events, and probably even fewer (perhaps none) in Grand Slam finals. It would be interesting to compare what leads to such a drastic penalty for different players, even though it likely can’t be a properly scientific analysis.
Dennis Shapovalov hit a tennis ball in anger and hit the umpire in the eye in a Davis Cup match. That outburst cost Team Canada the match. A severe penalty.
Katrina Adams, president of the USTA should NOT have said after the match that ‘perhaps this was not the result we were looking for’. Whether she meant ‘hoping for’ or ‘expecting’, which have two different meanings, it came across as favoritism to Serena and denigrating Osaka.
Yes, illegal coaching does occur. The remedy would be to ban all coaches from the player’s box or anywhere in the lowest tier of seats. Then the players couldn’t see them or hear them during the match.