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+1 Rep to bl4ke360</p>
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<p>Tried to Rep you AGAIN but I have to spread it around first.</p>
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<p>Since when is this now about fully automatic weapons? Are you aware they’ve been banned for decades? Or are you one of those people that doesn’t know the difference between a full auto and semi auto because you’ve been watching MSNBC too much?</p>
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<p>I’m actually kind of proud I don’t know all the differences between these different things. I don’t want to know and don’t need to know, since hopefully they’ll never impact my life. If I were a benevolent dictator, they’d all be banned anyway. </p>
<p>But isn’t it a trampling of my God-Given Constitutional rRghts ™ that I can’t own a fully automatic weapon??? The gubmint is out to get me!!!</p>
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<p>How convenient that you’re trying to mislead everyone by only listing some examples of people being killed by guns due to irresponsible behavior, yet no examples of people being saved by guns due to responsible behavior. And the fact that you’re sympathizing with a burglar just shows how far you’re willing to push your anti-gun agenda.</p>
<p>bl4ke360 - I forgave cromette for not reading all 600 posts in this thread. I suppose it’d be fair to forgive you also.</p>
<p>I actually read every post in the thread.</p>
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<p>Well, I actually don’t know the difference between a full auto and a semi auto because I don’t own any of them. And, actually, I’m not really all that in favor of taking away your right to own them, either.</p>
<p>One thing I’m really not comfortable with is the idea that I might be out shopping at whole foods and be surrounded by open carry people. open carry makes me a bit uncomfortable, and I actually think it is designed to make me uncomfortable, not me in particular, but anyone around the person with the gun on display. Things like that I think are really unnecessary.</p>
<p>I should not have to feel nervous standing near you in the produce section, and, if I were faced with that kind of thing on a daily basis, I might actually decide I DID want you to lose your rights to your weapons since they would be impinging on my right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.</p>
<p>From a law standpoint, I think these things are best decided on a state by state basis. I don’t think anyone currently in the executive branch has even lived in wyoming or montana or idaho, where there are very few gun deaths and many guns. Paradigms are important.</p>
<p>as an aside, if you start refering to MSNBC and FOX and whatnot, your thread will be closed for politics. the end.</p>
<p>No, kluge, I don’t have a gun to protect my family, but we do own guns for hunting. (Locked in a gun safe per CA law). I have chosen to live in a community that is very safe, so I don’t worry much about becoming a crime victim. The majority of Americans are not as fortunate as me, and I respect their desires to arm themselves for self-defense purposes if that is what makes sense for them. You sound like you live in an ivory tower.</p>
<p>Ironic that those who accuse others of an “emotional” response to gun violence are on the same side of the issue as the less educated, paranoid conspiracy theorists. Who’s being emotional again?</p>
<p>“How convenient that you’re trying to mislead everyone …”</p>
<p>Glad to see no one is stooping to demagoguery here.</p>
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<p>I don’t own any of them either and yet I know the difference. It’s self explanatory so there’s really no excuse for not knowing, and I don’t see how you can be on one side of the argument when you’re obviously ignorant to the other side, when you don’t even know the basics of what this is about. Do yourself a favor and do some research because uneducated opinions are the last thing we need.</p>
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<p>But that’s precisely the point of why they do it - it’s tough-guy, macho, look-at-the-size-of-my,er,holster braggadacio. It’s a more deadly version of Axe spray for teens and comb-overs and toupees for middle aged men. Look at big, self-important me, don’t mess with me. That impresses nobody, but that’s all they’ve got. It’s no accident that pro-gun sentiments are resoundly found among lower socioeconomic / educated classes in rural areas.</p>
<p>“less educated paranoid conspiracy theorists”</p>
<p>I would expect this group to be a fringe one as opposed to 75%. They are just less educated but I have seen and read opinions by lots of gasbags with several degrees. Less education is not an equivalent of less common sense and more education does not give one common sense always.</p>
<p>Full automatic versus semi automatic? Dead is dead, so I don’t need to know the difference.</p>
<p>I understand the need for home defense. Been there. Pre-kids we lived in Oakland CA. A nice neighborhood but within walking distance of a so-so area and a short drive to some really bad spots, but the real issue was living in earthquake country. It was not a stretch at all to imagine a situation where the telephone would be useless to bring help, nor was it a crazy fantasy to imagine the possibility of looters following a major earthquake. At the time I thought it would be irresponsible and pollyannish to not own a gun. After having kids , the equation (meaning probabilities and possibilities) changed and in my mind tilted towards not having a gun in the house.</p>
<p>But I don’t understand, if people think the gubment is going to confiscate their guns, how they will stop the gubment, even with an AR-15. If they send a 10 man SWAT team to your house you won’t be able to hold them off. Even if you have a fully automatic weapon, they will just send a drone over to your house and blow you up. That’s the part I don’t get - how one person owning assault weapons thinks he needs them to fight off a military-style organized assault.</p>
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<p>These such areas actually have a much lower gun homicide rate than high gun-control city areas.</p>
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<p>Listen you BOZO, read my posts or don’t address me.</p>
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<p>If that’s your logic, how about this then: Kitchen knife versus gun? Dead is dead, so I don’t need to know the difference.</p>
<p>"… and I respect their desires to arm themselves for self-defense purposes if that is what makes sense for them."</p>
<p>No one objects to citizens defending their castle. Where the whole thing gets murky is when citizens think it appropriate to head out into society “armed and ready.” Ready? Ready for what?</p>
<p>The difference between semi-auto and fully auto is, sometimes, a paperclip and a rubberband. Law enforcement (and survivalists) know this.</p>
<p>A few points from the weekend gun show, which I did not attend:
To buy anything, you need a membership card, which includes a background check.
A pallet of ammunition, which usually lasts about a day, was sold out in 30 minutes.
Handgun prices are up about 25%.
Ammo prices are up about 60%.
The price for clips has doubled.
The place, normally filled with white guys in their 50s, had an unusual amount of newbies and women intent on buying.</p>
<p>It seems the rush is on to stock up before any laws change.</p>