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<p>Yes, it could happen. People do irrational things when they are scared. And the courts…please… plenty of folks have gotten off, when there were eyewitnesses. </p>
<p>Again, I am not necessarily against having an armed guard at the school, I just dont want it to be a teacher. </p>
<p>Just my opinion…</p>
<p>I have the luxury of sending my kids to private school, and the education to homeschool them, if thats what it takes. If they start arming teachers, I shall do just that.</p>
<p>Can we get back to the OP now? There was a student homicide in my HS. A disturbed boy started running down the hallway, holding a knife high and screaming. Halfway along the highway he stabbed some girl he didn’t even know in the back.</p>
<p>So where’s the “action point” in here. When the boy raised the knife? When he started running? screaming? As he started the stabbing motion? It was between classes and there were a lot of students in the hallway. If he ran past an armed teacher and the teacher didn’t shoot him, would that be negligence? If the knife turned out to be a stage prop, would it be murder if the teacher did shoot him? If the teacher tried to shoot and killed an innocent or two in the hallway would that be “collateral damage” and held harmless?</p>
<p>This is real life. And it’s the reason we charge the police with decisions like these.</p>
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<p>I guess you don’t have a problem with the people that are killed by these “trained law enforcement officials”.</p>
<p>[Sheriff</a> makes policy changes after man shot 16 times in bed | Local News | The Seattle Times](<a href=“http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020096770_shooting10m.html]Sheriff”>http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2020096770_shooting10m.html)</p>
<p>Happens every time, trigger happy cops blast away as soon as one of their buddies fires a shot unjustifiably.</p>
<p>Columbine, Aurora, Tucson, perhaps even Sandy Hook might have been prevented if the adults closest to the young men who committed these crimes had been more vigilant. I cannot imagine that the Columbine parents had no idea what their sons were up to. I can’t imagine that Mrs. Lanza didn’t know her son was too unbalanced to be anywhere near a gun. I can’t imagine that the Tucson parents didn’t know their son was crazy and didn’t get him some sort of help or watch what he did and what he bought extremely carefully. In Aurora, the parents were several states away, but the psychiatrist knew he was dangerous. None of this excuses the killers in the least. But I simply do not buy the excuse with any of these killers that it came as a complete surprise to those closest to them.</p>
<p>^^ Jesse Jackson is in compete agreement with you bl4ke360.</p>
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<p>I grew up with JROTC in my high school in the 1960s There are 3200+ high schools that have it now. Many of the instructors would be excellent candidates. The Texas proposal is to allow armed and trained teachers or admins as designated by the districts that opt in. Considering the number of schools in Texas, establishing a training center and program for the designated teacher/admin could be a new industry and could use ex-SWAT and/or similar military personale to provide the necessary training.</p>
<p>We already have lock down and emergency plans and protocols for the public schools. This just adds an armed response to shooter plan and protocol.</p>
<p>Personally, the situation of “I am armed, but the perp only wants my wallet so give it to him” does not fit the situation where an armed individual is in a school or university and is bent on killing (kids, teachers etc) even if it is a certainty the shooter will die. </p>
<p>I can’t agree with the idea that it is “cowboy” to take action to try and take out the shooter. I guess I want to think I’d be with Beemer when the call goes out “let’s roll.” You do what you can.</p>
<p>Bl4ke360, it is a risk even with trained officers carrying guns. Those are exact scenarios that make me dislike any weapons being around, and having to use risk stats as to who and when they should be used for protection purposes. Having teachers, and other civilians who will not have the consistent training and practice with weaponry to carry arms and have to make decisions when to use them is far more risky. Even with trained officers, it is a risk. Most people do not like having armed guards hovering around them. I grew up in that environement and it was disconcerting and there was that risk. </p>
<p>There are parents and school officials and mental health officials that have great fears about the sanity and danger of some people. There really is not much one can do and not much that can be done unless there is someting tangible. You can’t arrest someone and/or put them away without solid evidence. I don’t think Adam Lanza’s mother thought for an iota that her son would do this. It was completely and totally out of charactor and out of the realm of the issues she was dealing with him. She would have gotten those weapons out of her home and stored them with any of the ranges in the area if she had any such inkling. There hasn’t been one smidgeion of that sort of evidence in that case, that he was a risk for something like this.</p>
<p>I don’t know about that guy in Aurora. If gun shops sold those weapons to him looking the way he does in the photos these days, without raising a flag…they’d sell to anyone. There are many young people I know whose parents are living in dread that they will do some terrible thing, but I don’t know any who think their kids would do a shoot up. </p>
<p>My brother was telling me that one his former service buddies, got rid of his gun collection when he noticed that someone had tried to get to them. He has 4 young adult and teen boys and there have been some rough times, and though none of them are what anyone would consider for a moment being involved in things like a shooting, these incidents have made some gun owners jumpy, and for good reason.</p>
<p>I am closing the thread. There is too much bickering to clean up.</p>