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<p>EmeraldKity4 – Now that gal has said that there were no religions in the world prior to Jesus’ birth. That’s going to come as quite a shock to the Greeks, the Romans, the Mayans, the Chinese and the entire subcontinent of India…among others.</p>
<p>She also said she didn’t know whether the earth was round or not.</p>
<p>Who said this about the flat earth and no religion prior to Christ?</p>
<p>[Sherri</a> Shepherd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherri_Shepherd]Sherri”>Sherri Shepherd - Wikipedia)</p>
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<p>That’s exactly what I thought!</p>
<p>Re Sherri – I can only call that a hot mess.</p>
<p>“Whoopi must have some ego to think she knows more about abortion law than an obgyn presidential candidate.”</p>
<p>I don’t think being Whoopi, an ob-gyn, OR a presidential candidate is any kind of credential as to knowledge of abortion law. Somebody who teaches, researches, or practices law in that area is an expert. Everybody else is a citizen on a level playing field as far as I’m concerned, and their expertise can only be measured by their actual knowledge of the subject.</p>
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<p>I would think that a presidential candidate for whom the abortion issue, whether leaning one way or the other, is a major part of his platform, would be expected to be knowledgeable of the law. Add to that an OB-GYN, who can legally perform abortions? Yes, I would think so.</p>
<p>Informative commentary from NPR’s Marketplace show on Ron Paul’s nutty Return-to-the-Gold-Standard idea:</p>
<p>[Marketplace:</a> Gold standard won’t make things better](<a href=“http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/12/05/gold_standard/]Marketplace:”>http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2007/12/05/gold_standard/)</p>
<p>Excerpt:</p>
<p>"There are three things one would want a monetary policy to do. You can do any two of these three things, but never all three at once. You can keep the domestic purchasing power of money stable. Or, you can keep your currency stable relative to other currencies. Or, you can allow money to flow freely across borders.</p>
<p>Today we choose domestic price stability plus capital freedom. That still seems the right choice.</p>
<p>But there other choices, including the old-fashioned choice favored by Dr. Paul – the one that says that when it’s time for an economy to make an adjustment, the adjustment should be felt good and hard."</p>
<p>“would be expected to be knowledgeable of the law.”</p>
<p>You can expect whatever you want. The question is what you’re likely to get. I have lots of expectations of presidential candidates that they don’t live up to. If Ron Paul happens to be knowledgeable about the interaction among Roe, Webster, and Casey; if he is well-informed about the existing parental involvement, waiting, and information provisions in the 50 states; if he is prepared to discuss the relationship between Stenberg v. Carhart and Gonzales v. Carhart; then that is great. But if he is that well-informed, it’s because he’s chosen to educate himself, not because he’s running for president, because I promise you, not everyone in the presidential field could handle that kind of conversation.</p>
<p>“Add to that an OB-GYN, who can legally perform abortions?”</p>
<p>Most obgyn’s have never performed an elective abortion and were never even trained to do them during residency. They don’t necessarily have any special expertise in reproductive rights law, either (especially since we’re talking about national issues, and only the law in the licensing state would affect a practicing obgyn performing abortions). I’m a lawyer and licensed by the State of Illinois to work on mergers and acquisitions, but I’ve never spent a day learning to do that, and I don’t have a clue about the regulations I’d be operating under if I tried.</p>
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<p>Yes, he has chosen to educate himself. He is a true statesman, much more knowledgeable on this and many other issues than nearly all the candidates.</p>
<p>[Amazon.com:</a> “Educating Rudy: The Ron Paul reading list”](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Educating-Rudy-Paul-reading-list/lm/RJML1CA9L0NCZ]Amazon.com:”>http://www.amazon.com/Educating-Rudy-Paul-reading-list/lm/RJML1CA9L0NCZ)</p>
<p>You’re right that most of the other candidates could not handle the depth of conversation that Ron Paul could. (and certainly not the current ‘president’) But they should. For the highest job in the land, they indeed should.</p>
<p>“Now that gal has said that there were no religions in the world prior to Jesus’ birth. That’s going to come as quite a shock to the Greeks, the Romans, the Mayans, the Chinese and the entire subcontinent of India…among others.”</p>
<p>Yes, indeed. My thought when I saw that clip was “what about the Jews? Doesn’t she know Jesus was Jewish?”</p>
<p>This discussion has been fascinating. I watched because I had heard so many good things about Ron Paul, and based on this one show wouldn’t vote for him even if he were running against Hilary.</p>
<p>I’m no legal or medical expert, but I’m pretty darn sure that there ARE restrictions about when abortions can be performed, but according to him, they can be done up until the baby is born. And try as they might, the ladies could not get him to say at what stage they can be done, so I will assume that to mean he thinks they should never be allowed. He also could not explain how he believes in no government intrusion into personal lives, except when it comes to abortion.</p>
<p>Sounded like a typical politician to me. The only woman on the panel that sounded less intelligent than him was Sheree.</p>
<p>3bm, abortion is a very complex issue and cannot be given justice in less than 10 minutes. He is unapologetically pro-life. He is also unapologetically pro-LIBERTY. Please understand that one who is in favor of liberty for all will champion that liberty for the least among us, the unborn.</p>
<p>The reason you may think this is a contradiction is that you evidently don’t consider the unborn baby a person. That is the perennial argument. But please understand that to someone who DOES consider the unborn baby a person, that person’s liberties take precedence over one who would annihilate the person’s life. In other words, one person’s liberties ends where another’s begins.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is different from other pro-life politicians in that he has much more compassion towards the WOMEN. This is a GOOD thing, imo. Not a contradiction at all. There are many ‘pro-life’ politicians who would gladly turn a young pregnant woman into a criminal. Not Ron Paul. I think his stance is very reasonable.</p>
<p>If you’d like to understand the depth of thought behind his views on abortion, please search for ‘Ron Paul abortion’ on youtube.</p>
<p>“according to him, they can be done up until the baby is born.”</p>
<p>He said that? If he was speaking about elective abortion, he’s wrong in all 50 states.</p>
<p>US SUPREME COURT ALLOWS LATE-TERM ABORTION BAN</p>
<p>( from April 2007)</p>
<p>Perhaps his reading comprehension doesn’t extend to finishing a headline?</p>
<p>I thought he was spewing blatantly false information, too.</p>
<p>The 1st line of the article reads:</p>
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<p>Key word here being ‘certain.’</p>
<p>from [US</a> Supreme Court allows late-term abortion ban | csmonitor.com](<a href=“http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0419/p01s03-usju.html]US”>US Supreme Court allows late-term abortion ban - CSMonitor.com)</p>
<p>(Hmmmm…now who’s not reading past the headline?)</p>
<p>If even SOME late-term abortions are allowed, in SOME circumstances (which they certainly are), Ron Paul’s statement is logically correct. He did not specify the reasons for abortion (due to time constraints on this show) but merely stated that he, as a physician, could legally perform an abortion right before the baby is born. This may be true in differing circumstances, depending on the state, but is still a true statement.</p>
<p>So, what else did you think was blatantly false info?</p>
<p>Killing unborn children 8 months after conception is still legal under certain circumstances, as RP asserted, so long as the doctor uses a method other than delivering it halfway, sticking scissors in its head, and destroying the remains with a suction catheter.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying this, Vyse.</p>
<p>not a privacy issue:</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Ron Paul: Is abortion a privacy issue?](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUK89nmAvCM]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUK89nmAvCM)</p>
<p>on abortion and stem cell research:</p>
<p>[YouTube</a> - Ron Paul on Abortion and Stem Cell Research](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66jpPCIzza8]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66jpPCIzza8)</p>