The Wait List

Every admissions office is SWAMPED today. Please be patient and read nothing into whether someone got back to you. They are answering questions about portals not working, responding to FA questions, fielding inquiries about revisit days, and getting angry calls about decision they didn’t like. Really -’ not the best time to throw yourself in the mix or to infer anything from response time.

Nobody is taking anyone off the WL or anything like that, so waiting a few days before picking up the phone won’t hurt.

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yeah don’t worry i decided from all of this that the last thing i should do is read into anything

i’m working on publishing my book right now so at least i have a distraction for the next while!

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I was waitlisted at Lawrenceville. What can I expect from the waitlist, and is there anything I can do to increase my chances of getting off it?

hello nityam! I also got waitlisted from most of the schools that I applied to, but fortunately, I got in and committed to Lawrenceville. here is some stuff that I did to try to get other admission officers to get me off the waitlist from other schools.

  1. accept your spot on the wait list (VERY IMPORTANT.)
  2. Tell yourself “Decisions don’t define me and it is not the end of the world!” I looked at your chance thread and I think you are super capable of getting off the waitlist!
  3. Send a first-choice letter via PORTAL (they don’t want people sending emails because it is easier and faster onto your Lawrenceville portal)

that’s all I have! good luck! :)))

Don’t really know what I’m doing here. I got one acceptance that I’m going to run with but still it never crossed my mind that I’d get 9 whole waitlists. I keep wondering what I’m gonna do if I get off from one of my top choices but I don’t think that’s likely. Even if I do, I imagine waitlist candidates don’t get much FA. Might be a whole other waitlist for that.

Here is the thing about waitlist, it could happen anywhere from tomorrow to just before school starts in the fall or never.

Reposting this Waitlist gem from @PhotographerMom

Kids/Parents, you should read this:

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My DD was waitlisted at St. Georges school. I was wondering if anyone has some insight regarding the wait list. The letter stated that there were 1000 applicants for 100 spots. So we have little hope of moving off the wait list.

Does anyone have an idea on how many students were waitlisted at Choate?

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Wait lists are not a numbers game. They are used when a particular “bucket” has not been filled. For example, if the school did not get enough girl day students that accepted, then the wait list spot will go to a girl day student. And there’s nothing a boy boarding student can do to make himself a more appealing applicant. He may be amazing but he’s not a girl day student, and girl day student is what the school needs.

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My understanding is over 500 were WL.

As @cinnamon1212 referenced, there are various “buckets”. For example, among competitive girls swimmers there may be fewer than a handful in this particular waitlist bucket.

Over 500 were waitlisted for 9th grade or all grades?

I would not hold my breath on much/any waitlist movement at SG. They have fewer spots open this year, due to dorm renovations, and a high percentage of legacy / sibling applicants (which also means a high yield). I would go ahead and follow all the guidelines posted in this thread for staying on a waitlist, but would also work on feeling excited about the schools to which your daughter is already admitted.

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How do you find out if your school has a high or low yield? Is it even possible to find out that information?

It’s generally hard to find. It also can vary from year to year and almost always varies for different applicant “buckets”. A school can increase its yield for students needing FA by offering very generous packages, for example.

Very high-achieving, FP students tend to be the hardest to yield because they are the most likely to have several good options and the fewest levers to pull to influences their decision.

The schools are pretty good at managing this – they know, for example, the siblings are more likely to say yes, that a serious swimmer is unlikely to choose a school without a strong team (or a pool!), that certain schools may yield boys better than girls or vice versa, etc. They know pretty well how things are likely to turn out.

And then they build a huge WL to fill in the specific holes that are left on A10.

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I laughed!

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Hey guys, so I got waitlisted at 9 schools:
Choate, Exeter, Andover, Deerfield, Groton, Lawrenceville, Nobles, Concord Academy, and Madeira
Does anyone have any info about how many people are on each school’s waitlists and the chances to get off? Any advice for what we should do now is also welcome!

also i made a post in the official stats thread so feel free to take a look at that!

Not all waitlistees are built or treated equally. There are two specific buckets of applicants on the WL:

Bucket #1: “Casualty of yield”

What?
• Applicants who are highly qualified and should have been admitted by the school, but whom the school is unconvinced they will accept the offer of admission
• A school does not feel that they are your clear first choice

How to identify:
• Waitlisted by most top ranked schools applied to, with perhaps one admission to show proof that you qualified to be admitted to this tier of school. No rejections.
• WL by lower ranked schools applied to (who may feel, again, that you are only using them as safety and don’t want to sacrifice their yield for you)

Why?
• These schools care massively about yield. They have no interest in being part of your ego boost of being admitted to multiple school and giving you the luxury to choose among them
• You did not demonstrate a strong connection to the school (contacting teachers, program heads, recommendations from alums, etc)
• You did not clearly indicate this was your first and only choice
• The AO may not perceive you are a fit for their school, if say, you love a specific discipline where they are not strong. They feel that you are going for the name brand instead of the fit.

Action to take:
• Sign up for waitlist
• Send materials to school updating them on your accomplishments since application (via email and their portal)
• Tell the school clearly (via email, calls, WL signup etc) that if you are accepted off WL, you will 100% accept offer of admission
• Have any school contacts (alums, faculty, etc) call into AO to push your case

Bucket #2: “Soft rejection”

What?
• Applicants who are qualified – on paper – for admission, but for whom the school has no material intention of admitting
• For instance, if the information on this site that Choate has a WL this year of 500 for this year’s incoming 9th grade class of ~200, with a yield of ~65-70%, its clear this is not a true WL
• Remember, just because you have perfect scores, grades and ECs does not mean they are admitting you. These schools could fill 5 classes with people with that profile.

How to identify
• Waitlisted by all top ranked schools you applied to with, perhaps, a rejection or two as well to further underscore that some of the schools are actually being honest with you about your true status

Why?
• The schools have no real incentive to reject you as you are, technically, qualified
• The school would like to maintain a neutral to positive perception in the eyes of applicants, their friends/families, middle schools, etc. (the old adage of eating at a restaurant where you have a bad experience and you tell 10 friends about it)
• This is why you read stories of people on this forum getting WL one year and then reapplying and getting rejected. The school realized you didn’t get the message last time around.

Action to take:
• All of the same steps as above, but assume your chances of getting off WL are close to nil
• Immediately apply to rolling admissions schools or make sure you have a good alternative (public or private day school in your area)
• Don’t delude yourself with this narrative that “I didn’t get any rejections…” and a faint dream that you will get a magic call from the AO. Deal with the situation and fight another day

I would stay away from all of the other sub buckets mentioned previously as this is pretty wild speculation and you will never know who you are up against (e.g. girls who are day students…). If you are in a specific demand bucket like underrepresented group, athlete, legacy, they may actually reach out to you directly to tell you the true status of your application

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I don’t agree with this binary analysis. There are not two groups on wait lists, one being kids that would have been admitted if only they’d shown more interest.

Candidates do NOT have to contact teachers, program heads, or have recommendations from alums – particularly that last! An alum recommendation carries very little weight. And kids aren’t expected, during the application process, to tell a school they’re the applicant’s first choice. That said your suggested “Actions to take” are good; but applicants shouldn’t think if only they are convincing enough they’ll be admitted.

There aren’t the two groups suggested, with different paths. Both supposed groups – i.e. everyone on the wait list – should not expect to get off wait lists, everyone should be looking to a Plan B

Welcome to the community, @tedlasso . (Great user name!) Perhaps you can share your connection to boarding school. If you go through my old posts, you can see mine.

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For the most part this is true but I personally know of at least two children that got off of waitlists, at two different schools, because their parents were friends of a board member. Who you know can get you off the waitlist.

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