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Nor would it seem are you interested in sharing some of the numbers that a person “involved with admissions for an Ivy” would have access. No one is contending that there are no other factors bedsides AA in how Ivies and non-Ivies select which applicants to offer admission The question is how much does AA increase an applicants chances to be accepted at both Ivy League schools and non Ivy league schools.</p>
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Who said that? I fully believe that some URMs do get ahead on merit without a “gimmie” somewhere along the line. Unfortunately that achievement is often perceived as a side effect of a special AA “gimmie” because so many other less meritorious students do receive an undeserved AA"gimmie" when applying to college.</p>