<p>Re the baggy pants/hiphugger pants issues, appears there will be more basic style changes afoot that may shock you like they did me. Two dinosaur moments:</p>
<p>1) Slips. I went looking for a white half-slip for my daughter’s graduation dress. I went to Nordstroms, the place that you’d think stocks everything, especially basics like slips. Guess what, they tell me they don’t carry slips anymore because of lack of demand. I feel faint (Nordstroms one of the last bastions of traditional clothing has failed me?), but gather my few wits, think hard and realize wa-la there is still hope, there is a Victoria’s Secret in the same mall. Now I’ve never shopped in one before but knowing their specialty is underwear (not the perfect word, but it works for me) I walk in with great confidence and ask to see some half-slips. The young lady actually blushes (more I think at my ignorance than anything else) and stammers that slips are something they do not carry. Impossible, I exclaim, you are all things underwear, no? What if you have a sheer dress? She smiles, nobody really cares if you can see your legs through a dress anymore…</p>
<p>2) Pantyhose. I am trying on a very very expensive dress for said daughter’s graduation at Saks Fifth Avenue. A gorgeous charcoal linen sleeveless sheath. The saleslady who looks only maybe 10 years younger than me recommends a pair of slingback shoes to complete the look and then murmurs in my ear “but no pantyhose” as if I looked like the kind of person that just might think you’re supposed to wear pantyhose with an expensive dress and expensive shoes to a special event. Boy (rolling eyes) am I glad she warned me before I committed that faux pas. I can see young girls pulling off skipping pantyhose but it looks like pantyhose is on the way out for even us matronly types (well, not this one). I have a feeling in about 10 more years we will be talking about pantyhose and slips with the same horror I remember my mother talking about girdles.</p>
<p>eww no nylons to a formal event?
I admit I do use self tanner and go without if I wear cropped pants, a longer skirt that is casual, but even teens with perfect legs should wear nylons to dress up.
Now I never liked slips
I have a touch of the tactile defensiveness that my daughter also has, and wearing undershirts, slips and socks was just too much for me. I used to go around back of my house and take them off before I walked to school.
However somethings you need a slip for, decorum and comforts sake.
penneys still sells them and probably does macys
Nordstroms is the only other major dept store around here and they weren’t the bastion of tradition that was Frederick & Nelson where my grandmother would buy my camel hair coats to wear to church :rolleyes:</p>
<p>TaraMom, your story cracked me up. I had to go to 8 stores before I could find a sleeveless linen sheath for a wedding. The salespeople at the other 7 stores told me, “they don’t make those anymore, ma’am!”…and I was mortified the other day when I went into Victoria’s Secret looking for a nightshirt: “they don’t make those anymore, ma’am!”…If one more person says that to me I’m going to go into a cave with the dinosaurs!</p>
<p>Well actually it’s a dress+jacket combo. The jacket is my security blanket as I don’t normally go sleeveless anymore, but if it gets too warm outside at graduation, off it goes. Let me know where the dinosaur cave is so we can hang out :)</p>
<p>I went home after my fruitless slip-hunting expedition and put D through the gauntlet of trying on her graduation dress, sending her outside in full sun, and I sat crosslegged on the ground having her do a runway turn, walk, and turn again to ensure my eagle eye didn’t detect any transparancy. It had a very minimal lining which was why I thought the slip was needed, but it passed the sunlight test. I asked about nylons also, but D doesn’t want to as her sandals are fairly minimal and I agreed sometimes even sheer hose can be obvious when there’s a lot of foot showing.</p>
<p>I am shaking my head in amazement as I am reading these 3 posts. Yes, I will confess to being one of those who is getting old with you because I woudl have worn shome sheer sandal foot pantyhose with my linen dress and sling back shoes. </p>
<p>In addtion, I would have had on a slip. I remember when it was second nature when you purchased the correct undergarments when you purchased a special occasion dress. Here is to our age showing and an era gone by. So count me among those that don’t get it.</p>
<p>P.S. my mother was from the south where no self resecting young woman over the age of 14 didn’t wear a girdle (I laugh everytime Dolly Parton mentions it in Steel Magnolias).</p>
<p>I don’t get why people who date married men/women, then marry them, are surprised when their new spouses cheat. I always thought the rule was, if they do it with you, they’ll do it to you. Or, to use another famous quote (so famous I don’t know the author !) " any man who marries his mistress leaves a vacancy in the position."</p>
<p>And it’s my 29th wedding anniversary next Monday (smiley face) Love means being sick on ocassion - turning a blind eye, having stopped up ears, and forgetting a few things every now and then !</p>
<p>Yeah, well, Sybbie, you can’t buy a slip down here either - it is amazing! Also we don’t wear stockings anymore in the summer, but that’s because of the sandals for every occasion.</p>
<p>Something else I really don’t get–why we let names on nailpolish and sample paint chips confuse us. </p>
<p>Imagine yourself checking out out the nail polish or paint chip display in a store. The first thing you do when you see one you like is turn it over and read the name, right? What is UP with that? What can it possibly matter if it’s called “moonlight madness” or “misty mocha?” The only time you should care what the name is, is when you run out so you can buy more. But every time I try to choose a color, I find myself fighting the urge to look at the stupid name…</p>
<p>Speaking of see-through and undergarments, I don’t get why the organizers of the Miss Universe Pageant didn’t realize that dark-haired girls in sheer white bikinis under bright lights can be … errrrr … rather revealing. And to think … Somebody said they didn’t get “Brazilians.” Did anybody else notice that? I didn’t 'til my brother pointed it out. LOL</p>
<p>Anyone notice how the little advertising thing now says “Silky slips” and “nylon stockings?” TaraMom, I think there is a new way for you to shop!</p>
<p>Alright, did someone do this on purpose? Well, if I see an ad for risotto next, we’ll know there’s a mod somewhere with a unique sense of humor…</p>
<p>Well, the “Intimissima” shop in Florence had the sexiest slip I’ve ever seen, so give it a few months and slips may be back.</p>
<p>It was beige-peach (the color of most Italian women’s skin), made of knitted nylon, had a built-in underwire bra, and came to mid-thigh. My D and I stopped and stared at the mannikin in awe.</p>
<p>OTOH, I saw no (zero, zip, zilch) Italian women wearing stockings or pantyhose or whatever with their beautifully pressed and stylish linen dresses. They all wore beautiful sandals or pointy high heels with no backs on their naked feet. The temp was in the high 30s (Celsius), however.</p>
<p>I have never worn a slip in my life, and I stopped wearing nylons in 1991, when I got tired of the expense and the constant fussing with them. To me, both things are as anachronistic as the little white gloves my mother tried to get me to wear to dancing class. (Yes, dancing class. So many things have changed.)</p>
<p>But then, I live in the Seattle area, where we consider it dressing up to wear a clean shirt ;-)</p>
<p>But then, I live in the Seattle area, where we consider it dressing up to wear a clean shirt ;-)</p>
<p>so true
and I have a white shirt on and I was so pleased with myself until I spilled coffee on it.
Italian women also tan- as a redhead you don’t wanna see my bright white legs- so if I am not wearing nylons I will put bronzer on them
I know
why do guys wear socks with sandles?</p>
<p>It is raining right now, but last week it was 90 deg F.
We don’t have air conditioning- so we walk around slurping our Frappachinos and whine about how hot it is when it is 80 F.</p>
<p>Actually, I don’t get tanning. What’s wrong with white? I’m not real crazy about cancer and wrinkles, either. (Okay, I admit it. I’m jealous of those who tan so beautifully. I burn, peel, return to go. Spent some traumatic middle school years as the person every girl ran to, holding her forearm against mine to contrast her depth of tan to my paleness.)</p>
<p>Count me in among those who don’t get nylons either. All I can think of is that they were invented by some guy as a revenge for neckties.</p>
Did anybody else notice that? I didn’t 'til my brother pointed it out. LOL</p>