Things you've found give people a false sense of security about getting into college

<p>Well, if she had amazingly concentrated/national-attention getting ECs/awards, was a native american URM, and had a damn fine essay. Although I do agree that such a low SAT and getting into stanford is…unexpected to say the least.</p>

<p>Its obvious why 1300 got to Stanford. First she probably got stuck in the bathroom after the first three section, and second her mommy or daddy was an adminstrator at stanford. No matter what other factors were present, stanford isn’t ■■■■■■■■ to let 1300 in their school. And with 1300, u can’t write a stellar essay</p>

<p>and coming back to the track, would colleges use EC’s against someone if it seems somewhat over the top?</p>

<p>perhaps a 2300 typoed to 1300? or perhaps it was something low like 1800 and someone remembered it wrong as 1300?</p>

<p>I’m an African American male and I think that being an Under Represented Minority has huge advantages if and only if a person justifies why being a URM has impacted their education. For example I know an African female who got accepted to Cornell with a about a 1300 SAT(don’t know the exact score but it was 13 something) with a 4.0 GPA(Valedictorian) First of all she lives in a poor neighborhood, second of all she is smart, but just did terrible on her SAT’s, third of all she’s a URM. But I know another African American female who got rejected from her top schools with good stats, but nothing else.</p>

<p>Its also proven that affluent people do better on the SAT’s than poor minorities. I can say that URM gave me a huge boost as well because I proved that it had affected my education in some way; Proven through essays and recommendations. I’m going to the University of Michigan Ann Arbor. Check this out: I applied with a 3.2 UW GPA and 1550 SAT score. Average Michigan GPA is a 3.8 and Average SAT is a 1920-2180. Does this make sense? How did I get in to U-M with such low scores? I have a guess to why. My main essay of choice was about my dance group member and his confrontation with drugs and how it affected my life and the lives of 2 of our other members. My counselor who wrote my recommendation included a brief synopsis of my life in Africa, where I was growing up. My diversity essay was about the MLK club at my school and its impact on me and my school We were also on the news because the club led a walkout at my school because of a racist principal that we had. She got fired. Apart from this stuff I had other outstanding extracurriculars at least in my opinion. My family isn’t poor either. My moms a pediatrician and my dad works at AMEX in NY.</p>

<p>There are many factors I believe that allowed me to get accepted even with my low stats. Sometimes I feel bad though because students tell me all the time. “If you were white or asian you would have gotten rejected.” Maybe, but at least I made it. I think being an URM has huge advantages. Relying on your ethnicity isn’t a good way to approach the college admissions process because people that usually do that end up seeing an influx of rejection letters. Any thoughts about my post?</p>

<p>The fact that URMs are applying more than ever is inspiring, I must say. When you’re talking about schools with 15-25,000 applicants per year, of course there will be TONS of rejects. But when you get down to it, URM status definitely gives you an advantage.</p>

<p>Unless you go to a top 100 high school, personally know Michele Hernandez, or are willing to shell out 50,000 a year on Phillips Exeter…don’t waste your money on private college counseling. Because we’ve got it all right here: CC FTW!</p>

<p>I think being a URM doesn’t give you automatic admission, but if you get a 2400 on the SAT, most likely get in, unlike lots of non-URM 2400 scorers.</p>

<p>I really, really doubt that Stanford admitted someone with a 1300/2400…I think the girl just said oh I got a 1300 and meant it out of 1600. People do that. I’m not saying the story is definitely not true…but it’s certainly questionable.</p>

<p>Also, whoever takes 13 SAT II’s is a bit of a tool.</p>

<p>Edit: Major Tool</p>

<p>Okay, guys: a 2400 is .02% of the test takers in America. Out of 1.5 million test takers, thats 300 scoring 2400.</p>

<p>300.</p>

<p>Most of these kids are going to apply to upper-tier schools, and while a few may not be admitted to certain schools (remember, yield rate is important, so they try to make sure their school is a good fit for the student), they’ll probably all be admitted to at least one upper tier school.</p>

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<p>Yeeeeah that’s ****ed up.</p>

<p>Valedictorian status, definitely. People assume that who ever is number one can get to a school on the moon if he or she wanted, even if they’re not in any activities or have any “passion” outside of school.</p>

<p>there should be an entire category of threads labeled “urm” on this site.
then everyone can have a go at it in an organized manner!</p>

<p>Legacy. Two of my classmates got rejected from two seperate schools (Georgetown and Penn, the latter of which my classmate even applied to ED, got deferred to RD, and then got flat-out rejected) that both sets of both parents went to.</p>

<p>Even having a great GPA and ACT/SAT alone won’t always cut it, as my friend learned this past year when he got rejected to his safety school (UFlorida), even with a 34 ACT and a 4.5+ weighted GPA.</p>

<p>The one I see a lot is “I have great essays.” I’ve seen a number of kids who have gotten A’s in English classes and been told their essays are great, so they’ll say on chances threads “Essays: Great!” Problem is, when/if you read them, many times they’re not particularly compelling/interesting/well-written. It would be more honest to say, “Essays: Not my strongest point, no…” </p>

<p>I don’t think it does anyone any favors to pretend they have great writing skills when they don’t, but I see a lot of that happening.</p>

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No, that means you are in a seriously tough HS.<br>
“I’m class val, have a 4.5 GPA, and scored 1100 on the SAT.” is an example of a seriously grade inflated school. Which is why I think the SAT ought to be more important than GPAs/class rank which are inconsistent between schools. College admins are supposed to know which HS’s are harder and take that into account, but I don’t think they do. For example, if the lowest tenth of your class drops out, your class rank can actually go down through no fault of yours. (50/500 vs 50/450) Is that fair?</p>

<p>Some parents still believe that trending upward and improving all 4 years is the best and very impressive to adcoms. So if Johny takes no honors 9th grade, 2 honors classes 10th grades, 2 11th grade, and then 1 - 2 APs in 12th then he’s showing an impressive trend that is better than the kid who takes all honors/APs available from 9th grade on.</p>

<p>Legacy, I think. Or maybe I just feel like it’s worthless since my legacy, URM, 2200+ sister got rejected from Cornell. Not even waitlisted.</p>

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This is almost a clear indication that something with her application was blatantly wrong. There is no plausible way that an applicant like her wouldn’t be at least waitlisted without a significant fault on her behalf.</p>

<p>Maybe she was high 2100s? I can’t remember, she probably can’t either, and I don’t feel like digging through her file to check.</p>

<p>I know she messed up on her Georgetown application and then got rejected. I think the supplement didn’t attach, so maybe she messed up on her Cornell app too? But she’s at a college ranked higher than both of those, and Georgetown would be too near family for her and Cornell too far from everything.</p>

<p>But now I feel like I’ll definitely be at least waitlisted there!</p>

<p>actually it’s an understatement, he really did all of that, and volunteer work, nhs, etc… he really was that amazing</p>