@fl1234 you make a good point… we all hear these stories of kids with this SAT and that GPA etc… first off, 95% of the GPA’s as we know are irrelevant because every county is different… but 95% of the people out there (not including us crazies on this board) do not know that counties and schools calculate differently. so when someones hears a kid didn’t get in with a 5.0, they immediately think OMG… well they don’t realize it might be on a 7.0 scale… I have a question. How many of those stories we hear are actually true? like you said there is another side to the story… like do they have a criminal record, are the GPA’s on a 10.0 scale, is the SAT actually what they say it is? do they have a mark on their high school record that is a flag? etc etc… thoughts?