I was referring to the story involving the football players that broke last fall. To be honest, the timing on that story was horrible as I was going to take my S16 to see it but it is just too big for us and that story was kind of the nail in the coffin. My D goes to school in Baltimore and has never had anything stolen either; I agree that ther is probably petty crime on all campuses. FWIIW, I would have sent my kids to Rutgers over Penn State as we are in state for Rutgers and I don’t feel Penn Stare is worth almost twice as much. Similar college experience and just as good of an education, IMO. I do think the campus layout and need for so much busing is a big reason why so many NJ residents pass it up.