Interesting study. Appreciate that the study size was relatively large.
I have worried that for some people - perhaps especially young girls, but know this isn’t limited to young girls - that they could take fasting too far. “I’ve waited 16 hours to eat, I think I can make it a couple hours longer”.
There are a lot of obsessive personalities. Whatever works to get the scale number to move. I realize this is the exception to the rule and that most here are not so stringent or I hope, obsessive. But I think we need to recognize others around us - especially teens/young adults and take note of their habits.
@abasket, I worked with his guy whose wife was really info fasting. But her fasting periods would last for two weeks at a time, and she always wanted to go longer. This doesn’t sound like the type of intermittent fasting that most people do! Obviously she was getting some sort of nutrition during these periods. He said she was not overweight at all, but really liked to do these fasts, and sometimes he would join her for part of the time. It sounded disturbing to me.
I don’t know if many people would be willing to buy Dr. Longo’s meal kit, however. $250-$300 for 5 days worth of meals (including very little food). That seems like it would turn off everyone except for the wealthy or true believers.
There is info out there how to DIY the FMD from the macros, but really, if you buy into IF, just water fast. The FMD was created because modern humans are just too painful to deal with LOL. What cracks me up is this is just really like slim fast shakes or coffee and an orange or whatever diet you can name. VLCDs obiulsy work but people need novelty.
Glad to make you laugh, @sushiritto?. Really, when you look at what it includes, there doesn’t seem to be much food in it, unless I misunderstood the plan. No wonder people will lose weight.
I totally believed you, but I just thought it was more than ironic when I read your post that there’s a $300/week meal plan for someone who’s on a fasting diet. My first reaction was “Hey, pay me $300/week and I’ll sell you my fasting diet plan.”
The meal plan may be totally legit, medically researched, peer reviewed, etc., but on the surface, sounds crazy to me.
Here’s a new article from the end of 2019 in NEJM on the benefits of IF - either the two days a week form or the 18/6 or 16:8 type. Seems like a very active research area.
The study cited in post# 217 was conducted on adolescent girls ages 11-15 and is also 12 years old. I think those of us here are less likely to be at risk of binge eating. Adolescent girls are at high risk for eating disorders of any kind.
And just because it was published in April 2010, hasn’t made the research and results invalid.
In terms of those of us here on CC, you’re making a huge assumption about your audience being less likely to binge eat. OCD behaviors don’t necessarily end (or begin) with adolesence. Adults have them as well. Men and women.
Just from my own personal experience, in the past when breaking a fast, I’m WAY more likely to eat large quantities of food.
And we definitely have an obesity epidemic in this country.
@sushiritto - that article is from 2008, not 2010 (fwiw) and I do believe the folks posting on this thread, mostly if not almost all parents, are less likely as a group to engage in binge eating/ other eating disorders than adolescent females.
I’d agree that parents may less likely to have eating disorders than an adolescent female, but there are plenty of older people out there with eating problems/disorders. As a country, we’re becoming more obese.
Yes there are plenty of adults with EDs (that refers to eating disorders, not erectile dysfunction) but the adolescent population is more at risk, which was my point. FWIW, I believe the largest increase in EDs has been seen in males, who are often mis or underdiagnosed.
Not sure why you changed to talking about OCD behavior in your response to my post, @sushiritto. My post was specifically about eating disorders in adolescent females . Restrictive eating is different from OCDs, which are moreso repetitive behaviors used to ameliorate anxiety based symptoms.
It just seems like the “flavor of the day”. People who yo-yo diet and can’t stick to a healthy eating plan which will permit some weigh loss will search for the next “easy” solution. I’m happy it works for some, but the majority of those trying it will give up, as they do with all the other fad plans.
Listen, clearly IF works for some. People on this thread - IMO - if they stay on IF for 1 year +, and/or keep weight off for 1-2 years +, then it works for you. Time will tell for people who have been on it for shorter periods of time.
But I think the article has value for people to be aware of a way of eating like IF to the overall population. Many here have teens and young adults at home. Be aware of who might jump on the bandwagon and where they might take the method.
Research does often does not provide conclusive results. For many topics you can pull up one, 10 or 100 similar articles supporting one side or another. The point being, AWARENESS. One size does not fit all. (pun intended??)
The biggest issue we are facing as a society is the constant eating, not the rarer ED teen (a mental health issue). When we start calling the 50% of Americans that will be obese by 2030, the really eating disordered, it might all be a bit more realistic. If IF is a successful fad, then that is all good. It is probably a whole lot better than high fat high protein fads that are going to increase cancer rates.