Tornadoes

<p>/\ Here’s a link to the video…
[Okla</a>. tornado survivor finds dog buried alive under rubble - CBS News Video](<a href=“http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50147264n]Okla”>http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50147264n)
Loved her reaction, " I know exactly what happened"…Reminded me of the Craig Morgan country song, “This ain’t Nothing”</p>

<p>What they really have to look foward to–very slow recovery. Joplin two years later. See tape.<br>
<a href=“http://www.news-leader.com/interactive/article/20130519/NEWS01/305180054/Joplin-tornado-anniversary-Mercy-hospital[/url]”>http://www.news-leader.com/interactive/article/20130519/NEWS01/305180054/Joplin-tornado-anniversary-Mercy-hospital&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I have to admit, when I saw the dog video, that I wondered if the camera crew had found the dog and put him under that rubble so he could be “discovered.” Yesterday, watching the first raw video, I saw a interview by a local station in which the reporter stopped in what seemed like the middle of an interview and said to the poor guy he was interviewing that since it was outside he was just doing a run through and asked if he could stay around for the real interview. The guy was half dressed and covered in mud and had just lost about 100 horses on the farm he worked and he was being asked to stand around while the crew did a test run. I saw the “real” interview later.</p>

<p>^I am not cynical enough to believe that. It did bug me that the news crew didn’t really help the woman lift the debris off her dog since they wanted to story so badly, though.</p>

<p>However, I have noticed the lack of conversation on this thread compared with those about Sandy.</p>

<p>Don’t it me – I think there’s a general East Coast bias on this board. I also think people are worn out by all the bad news of late.</p>

<p>That is my overwhelming feeling too. Between Sandy, Sandy Hook, the Boston Marathon bombings and now this–just too many bad things affecting children lately.</p>

<p>I realize now that I saw an abbreviated version of the video. It was cut so almost immediately after the woman said the dog was somewhere under the debris, someone said they saw the dog. I realize now there was some conversation in between. </p>

<p>I think a lot of the conversation about Hurricane Sandy was driven by people who were affected by it or were close to the event. Even if we had many CC members in the area of the tornado, they would not likely be thinking about posting on a forum.</p>

<p>I have to limit the amount of coverage I watch. It brings me to tears to hear about the children trapped in the school, to see the people standing in front of their demolished houses in their devastated neighborhoods. The coverage seems to be so personal these days. When did anchormen and women and morning show hosts start broadcasting their shows from the current disaster scene?</p>

<p>Dan Rather–hurricane in Texas in the 60’s
In early September 1961, Rather reported live from the Galveston Seawall as Hurricane Carla threatened the Texas coastline. In his autobiography, Rather notes that back then, television stations did not have their own radar systems, and there was no modern computerized radar that combines the radar image with an outline map. So he took a camera crew to the U.S. Weather Bureau (National Weather Service) office with a WSR-57 radar console located on the 5th floor of the Post Office Building on 25th Street in downtown Galveston (the antenna and its radome housing were located above the 7th floor, on the roof). A meteorologist drew for him a rough outline of the Gulf of Mexico on a sheet of plastic, and held that over the black and white radar display of Carla File:Hurricane carla radar.jpg to give Rather’s audience an idea of the Carla’s size, and the position of the hurricane’s eye. Rather’s reporting was the first ever display of a meteorological surveillance radar on television, and has been imitated by countless other reporters. This so impressed the network executives at CBS, that they offered him a job as a CBS News correspondent. Rather also, along with numerous other local and national television reporters, showed TV audiences the effects of Carla along the seawall, from the time the storm surge started slowly coming in, through much of the duration, and the aftermath. Rather refused CBS’s first offer, but accepted their second offer when it came three months later. The feat was memorialized by a curbside Texas Historical Marker at the Post Office.-Wikipedia</p>

<p>NYMomof2, I’m glad to know it’s not just me. I don’t watch the news most of the time because of my emotional response. I usually watch (or mostly just listen to) Good Morning America while I’m getting ready for work, and lately I can’t even get my makeup on without wiping away some tears. My D went to school in OKC so, even though I don’t know anyone involved, the Moore tornado is a little more personal than some other tragedies of late.</p>

<p>My major reaction–how does a school or any home in that area not have a good tornado shelter? Very simple below ground will do. Only need it for 15 minutes or so. No need for food, bathrooms etc. Just a concrete or steel box underground with a very strong lid.</p>

<p>barrons, aside from the cost (which is still expensive for many people), I think the mentality may be that the odds of a tornado hitting any one particular location (as in “my house”) is still infinitesimal, even in Tornado Alley. So people play the odds. </p>

<p>I always joked, “Yeah, I’ll spend $7,000 on the shelter, and then when the ONE tornado comes my way, I’ll probably be at work (a glass building on stilts:eek:).” I’ve lived in Texas most of my life, and the only tornado I’ve ever observed here was on the news or on youtube. </p>

<p>The fact that this community has experienced two devastating EF-5 tornadoes is quite remarkable. I’d be tempted to move…yet surely now the odds are this town will be the safest in the country. </p>

<p>One thing I’ve heard a lot recently is to put a helmet on if the sirens start blaring-many injuries result from being hit with debris.</p>

<p>I’ve never seen a monster tornado, but I was on the road for a little one here that knocked a lot of trees flat along a major highway, and I vividly remember driving through Kansas and seeing a tornado off aways and the radio telling us it was there, and wondering what the heck I was supposed to do since there wasn’t a building in sight. I know lie flat in a ditch, if there were one, happily it did not come to that. </p>

<p>I hate the fact that there is so little warning for these tornadoes and if you do get hit, you lose everything. That’s less true for the storms we get. I think earthquakes are the scariest of all, since there we really get no warnings at all. That said most new construction will withstand all but the worst quakes.</p>

<p>I feel the same way, musicmom, and I’d feel worse if I had a connection to OK. I just checked msnbc.com and the home page has a photo of the first identified victim, a beautiful 3rd grade girl.</p>

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That’s the deceptive nature of statistics talking. These are independent events, which means the probability of a tornado striking Moore, OK, is the same today as it was a week ago.</p>

<p>These stories and videos take me back to 1999. I was stationed at Tinker AFB, OKC and the tornado hit the corner of the base right near base housing where we lived. my kids were 3 and 7 years old at the time. Our house was about 6 houses away from where the tornado turned- if it hadn’t we probably would have died since the house we were in was built in the 1940’s. It didn’t have a single room without windows. I will never forget the freight train rumble and telling myself “i’m not really hearing this” while my son was reading a book to his sister by flashlight. The one thing I’m proud of is that they weren’t aware of what was happening until after it was over. My son’s response when we went outside- Mommy, who put all the trash in our yard?</p>

<p>The following weeks, we volunteered to help people go through the rubble of their houses. Just listening to the tales of survival was enough to let you know that there is a God because some of these people should have been dead after the tornado hit their houses. I remember one couple we helped showed us the small coffee table they got under. The tornado hit their house, flipped the sofa on top of the table and decimated the house. They came out without a scratch. It was amazing.</p>

<p>I understand some people do not have the funds to build a safe room. What I do not understand is people who choose not to do so. SIL moved to OKC 18 years ago. Very expensive house; installed an in-ground pool. Not a safe room though. They are from the midwest and are well aware of the devastation tornadoes bring. I would never buy a house in my state without a basement.</p>

<p>With today’s radar and weather forecasting I don’t feel tornadoes strike without any warning, or at least certainly not like it felt 15-30 years ago. Storms that are “conducive” to tornado production are often predicted 1-3 days ahead of time.</p>

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I hate statements like this. </p>

<p>Just sayin’</p>

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<p>Well, for the reason I said above. Because the chances of a tornado hitting any one particular house is very very very very small, so they play the odds. The huge majority of people living in Tornado Alley never have need of one, ever. It doesn’t seem that way when you watch the news, but in reality, the chances are much much higher that one would be killed in a car accident or by a devastating disease. We just bought a new house and don’t have a tornado room, though we do have a basement in our lake house (and basements are very rare here). I don’t know anyone who has a tornado safe room, whether they live in a multi-million dollar home or a modest tract home. I have one friend who has a storm cellar at her lake house, and that’s it.</p>

<p>Some homes I’ve toured on Home Tours will have a room which is “reinforced” for weather safety, but I don’t believe these are the same thing as the concrete bunker type tornado safe rooms. Better than nothing, I’m sure.</p>

<p>Sylvan–right there with you.</p>