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She has upside but it’s on the distance side as you pointed out. You were spot on, she’s an 800 runner who also does the 1500/mile.
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You can see that glaringly she is a 4/8 runner. the person i know well that went ivy for track was 8/15 and had the same 800 time, but was 1:00 in the 4 and 4:55 in the mile……she did run sub 28 in the 2 however.
From your times OP, i feel like i see your strength most in the 400m. but thats just my personal (not professional opinion). I had run some similar 200m and 800m times but i never was in the 1:05 range for the 400.
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Thanks! I am aware that I am not available for recruitment at the moment. I am a junior and the outdoor season hasn’t started so I will get lower times. My main questions are about the recruiting process- not so much if I can get recruited.
I am working on time and academics, so what else can I do to show coaches I am interested?
Social media? Touring the colleges/ watching practices?
Do you understand my main question?
Honestly, you don’t need to do anything else, and nothing else will make a difference. If you get the times and have the grades, then coaches will respond with interest. So focus on academics and track right now.
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As I stated above, you need to cast a wider net. How many coaches have you contacted? If you are not close to times those coaches are looking for, you need to expand your search. The D1 programs already have prospective recruits on their lists, but you are not strong enough runner to make the lists at this point. That, of course, can change and it is up to you to update coaches if you hit some faster times. Based on the numbers you shared, you should be looking at D2, D3, JUCO, and NAIA schools if you really want to run in college. Have an open mind. There are many very good schools at all levels. D1 isn’t the only route.
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Agree with above comments.
Review runcruit.com to get an idea of recruiting standards at schools. Make a list of areas of the country you would like to go to college. When you approach or meet the times for recruiting, fill out online questionnaire for the program, then email the event coach about your interest. Once you have a list of schools, and you are close to or have met standards, and the coach has responded or shown interest, then unofficially visit the town and school.
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Unfortunately there is nothing you can do right now to make yourself more recruitable, or to get coaches interested in you, except to get faster times.
They will not care if you follow them on social media, or visit, or anything, unless you have times they are interested in.
If you are recruitable, but not one of their top recruits, then things like making your strong interest known can make a difference. But these things are irrelevant to recruiting until you meet the standard.
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Runcruit is a good starting point, but also look at tfrrs.com. Coaches want kids that can at least score at conference meets. Look at the conference meet results for schools you are interested in. Do this for all levels. Figure out where you fit.
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The process starts with identifying a universe of schools where you’d be an athletic fit. For you, right now, there really aren’t any schools in that universe (except perhaps juco, etc, as mentioned above, that would let you walk on).
So, what folks here are trying to communicate to you is that the focus on recruiting is premature and an unnecessary distraction for you now.
I don’t mean to be harsh, and I wish you well in accomplishing your goals. But I’ve seen too many kids focus so hard on recruiting goals that they lose focus on the joy they can get from the sport itself.
If you hit your goals, you can identify schools and reach out then.
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For Example, Brn Mawr, which is a fine school:
| Recruit | Walk On | Tryout | |
|---|---|---|---|
| 5K XC | 21:26 | 22:42 | 24:13 |
| 3200m | 12:36 | 12:54 | 13:04 |
| 1600m | 5:53 | 6:10 | 6:36 |
| 800m | 2:33 | 2:43 | 3:03 |
| 400m | 1:05 | 1:08 | 1:13 |
| 300m H | 48.38 | 51.12 | 53.28 |
| 200m | 26.62 | 29.06 | 29.98 |
| 100m | 12.88 | 14.09 | 14.34 |
| 100m H | 17.18 | 17.60 | 18.12 |
By looking at this runcruit profile, it may be a school that I would reach out to if interested.
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Be aware that distance races in conference meets can be extremely tactical, so the times from the conference meet itself often do not reflect the caliber of athletes in the conference. Look at the best times in the conference from last year for a better appoximation of the quality of the competition.
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True, but I think tfrrs is still a better resource for potential student athletes as you can look up actual results rather the runcruit, which is estimated based off of data of current and former athletes. Runcruit numbers are often way off in either direction of what schools are actually using for recruit/tryout/walk on.
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Agreed, tfrrs is the best way to go. The performances just need to be interpretted correctly. The best times for all the teams in the conference gives the best sense of what is needed. Results of tactical races, off events in tune up meets, and events a program chooses to not compete at can all complicate interpreting what coaches are looking for.
Runcruit is often pretty accurate, but sometimes terrible. Even the recruiting standards published on a program website can be misleading. Sometimes a time means the coach will just barely start to respond to you when you make a time, and sometimes a time is completely aspirational in the sense that the coach hopes to get a recruit that fast.
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Hi Carlitotiger, can we connect about your daughter’s recruiting process? I am new to this process and my daughter who runs cross country and track has been talking to a few NESCAC and Ivy coaches.
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I’d be glad to answer any questions that I can. Feel free to message me.
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I’m also happy to serve as a resource. My daughter (in her freshman year) runs xc/track at a NESCAC, so we’re a bit over a year out from going through the recruitment/pre-read process.
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