<p>If I was on an Ivy League adcom I would probably reject any application with the words “Ivy League” on it. People who view all higher education in reference to the Ivy League are like pirates looking to plunder intellectual booty. Reputation is important in any school, but the people who get the most from any good school are the ones who don’t need the name of a sports league to feel good about themselves.</p>
<p>As for Colgate, part of the reason it’s not as hard to get into as Cornell is because it doesn’t get as many applications from students with OCD parents trying to keep up with the Joneses. You know who I mean: the exceptional, highly accomplished students utterly indistinguishable from their peers. We have a lot of them here, only less apply.</p>
<p>Colgate’s a really good school but can’t and shouldn’t be considered in the same category as the Ivies because while it attracts some top scholars, its lack of graduate programs and research keep it from having much influence in the world outside of Hamilton, NY. It’s only even technically a “University” because of three or so graduates in the Education Department.</p>
<p>So I agree with stonecold23, and I have no stomach for people discussing which schools <em>should</em> be Ivy, since it makes trivial and pretty much blots out what’s exceptional or unique in any school.</p>
<p>i support your application since you seem to want to transfer for the right reasons. Thank god not another prestige whore. </p>
<p>by the way, i never meant to suggest that there should be another school in the ivy league. My point was that if the situation were to ever arise (which, i dont think it ever will) there are more sensible choices other than Colgate to join: I dont know much about Colgate athletics, but I bet there would be dozens of other schools that would be considered before Colgate. People usually hear “ivy!” and relate it to only academics. It’s a sports league, dolt!</p>
<p>Wow, kingsleyzissou, I completely agree with you about the ivy league thing.</p>
<p>I had a group interview for Cornell Ambassador’s a few day’s ago, and we had to respond to different senarios. . .one of which was, where would you tell someone to go on campus to get a feel of Cornell.</p>
<p>There was a kid who responded the AD White room of Uris Library, among other places. . .because “it is a perfect depiction of what it means to be an ivy league school.” </p>
<p>Apparently our library depicts exactly what it means to play sports against Harvard, Dartmouth, Brown, Princeton, Columbia, Yale, and Penn. </p>
<p>I hate ivy BS.</p>
<p>I understand his answer, but not his logic. The AD white library is beautiful, but it doesn’t have anything to do with the ivy league. I love that room; it’s definitely one of cornell’s hidden gems/secrets spots, but it really doesn’t have anything to do with Ivy.</p>
<p>We don’t actually have a real library here because they’re making it less small, but if we did, I guess I could feel lucky nobody would say it holds the essence of a “Patriot League school.”</p>
<p>agreed. AD White room is great, my favorite place to go in the libraries, but I don’t study in the library all that often (usually just go to Court’s study lounge). Although the wingback chairs are way too comfortable, lol. Extremely easy to fall asleep, good for napping, not so much for studying</p>
<p>Gotta remember that the Ivy League is an athletic conference – as for Colgate being the 9th Ivy, there’s some history behind that claim. Back in 1954 when the Ivy League was formed, it was 10 schools (the current 8 plus Army & Navy) and was looking into expanding to 12 and approached four schools: Tufts, Johns Hopkins, Georgetown & Colgate for the two slots. When Army & Navy left after about two years, they tried to fill the vacancies: Tufts wasn’t considered again, Johns Hopkins was happy being D-3 and the slots were offered to G-town & Colgate, both of whom accepted. When G-town pulled out because it wouldn’t change its Jesuit status (reputedly), Colgate was left alone as the 9th Ivy. When there was no other comparable school to ask to become the 10th school, the Ivy League stayed at 8 and Colgate was left to fend on its own. Until the formation of the Patriot League (with G-town, Colgate, Army & Navy as the founding four) in the 1980s, Colgate consistently played and beat the Ivy League teams in practically all sports, but was not a formally recognized member. Thus, there is some veracity to Colgate being called the 9th Ivy.</p>
<p>Regardless of that, the OP will probably be happier in Ithaca.</p>
<p>i def. see what that kid means by the whole ivy league feel thing. That room is beautiful. Lately though, i’ve been doing my studying at the Fine Arts library (or as i like to call it, the Aine Farts Library) … nobody is ever in there! </p>
<p>collegeparent - interesting note on history. I see there is way more validity to the “9th ivy” thing than just personal opinion (which, i orignially thought it was). </p>
<p>In the end, the whole ivy thing can get rather upsetting. People should not pick Cornell because it’s an ivy league school: they should pick it because it flat out rocks.</p>
<p>gomestar, people should pick their schools not because “it flat out rocks” but because it is the perfect place for them – I hope that Cornell will prove the perfect place for the OP and am sorry that Colgate wasn’t since it so obviously is for some many of its students. Am glad you’re loving Cornell (what’s not to love – except the weather) –</p>
<p>well, yeah, i’m implying that it’s a student/college fit … not everybody thinks Cornell is awesome but it should be a good fit for those who think it “flat out rocks.”</p>