It’s kind of funny, a student trying to school parents about responsibility.
It is unlikely that someone would admit to being drunk the night before and missing a quiz. They would likely say they were ill. I’ll give this girl points for actually being honest.
I graduated six years ago and, after a number of year in the workforce, decided to go back to graduate school. I know what it’s like out there in the “real” world. If you don’t follow rules, there are consequences. A boss doesn’t care why you didn’t do the work. If you don’t do the work you’re fired.
That wasn’t my question. The girl was irresponsible for not having childcare. If another student admits being irresponsible and getting drunk the night before, are they excused as well?
I give up. She should be flunked if she has to miss a class. Hanged in the public square. Drawn and quartered. Forced to wear a scarlet letter. Burned at the stake.
Of course when I went to college, you weren’t treated like a child and your attendance wasn’t monitored. If you missed class you didn’t have to give an excuse. We weren’t treated like grade school kids. Some people were there every day, some never showed. Their choice.
busdriver11: I am not sure why you are going to extremes when I asked a simple question.
She was excused from the quiz. This is what I’m talking about.
You asked a simple question, and you don’t like, nor can consider anyone else’s answer. So you really aren’t looking for a discussion, or anyone else’s perspective. You are fixated on your idea of what is right, therefore I have no idea of why I’m even bothering to post here. Good day.
How can you not see the difference between getting drunk and oversleeping versus taking care of a child? One is irresponsible behavior and the other is the most responsible behavior there is. To not recognize that difference is very odd, frankly.
I can imagine it was extremely difficult for the mom to make the choice to take a baby to class, but it was the best alternative.
You assume it’s easy to find safe childcare, I assure you it is not. That is my experience of 22 years raising 4 children.
The question was never answered.
This girl was too busy on Twitter posting her 60,000 tweets and was irresponsible in finding childcare. If you get drunk and oversleep and miss a quiz that’s irresponsible as well. Same thing, just different circumstances.
Actually it’s very easy: https://www.care.com/edu/university-of-tennessee
Oh, the horror of being a caring and generous person!
This has never been answered, but where does the caring and generousness end? This is why there are rules. If there is a quiz and you aren’t there for the quiz you get a zero. It’s as simple as that. I don’t understand why this is so hard for some people to understand.
@utex2011 I certainly hope that you learn how to be more compassionate and understanding before you ever become a parent. Your hard views of rules in life just aren’t reality for most people, and your inability to understand or even consider others’ opinions are unreasonable. Caring and generosity don’t end. They are, unfortunately, very lacking in much of today’s society, which you have clearly illustrated. You joined the forum less than 12 hours ago and have done nothing but post antagonistic comments. I, too, will bid you good day because this ‘discussion’ is pointless.
@utex2011 did you miss this part about the young woman?
I have zero issue with a professor extending a little kindness to this young woman. It was an offer meant to apply in situations where she was in a bind – I didn’t interpret it as something the professor would expect to happen every week.
And the professor also explains in her email why she thinks it would be appropriate to have the baby visit the class:
Sounds reasonable to me. Anyway, her class her call.
@alwaysamom Actually I’m very happy being childfree by choice, but I love my relative’s and friend’s kids and take care of them from time to time.
You might not know it, but I’m a very compassionate person. I love helping others and do so when I can.
Actually I understood and considered opinions very well, but I just never got answers to any of my questions and even disputed some of the things written on here, which were obviously ignored.
So, I guess according to you there should be no rules and life should be all about caring and generosity.
I am not sure what field of work you are in, but the hard views of rules are definitely reality for me. I guess maybe I just didn’t grow up sheltered like others.
You can’t look at a list of names and profiles and assume there is even one that you would trust leaving a baby with.
Did you look at the process recommended in the website to find the caregivers? It’s involved and time-consuming.
OP I don’t know what you are talking about. I have several degrees and during all my schooling (a lot of years) I had to miss not one but a few quizzes, tests etc because of various emergencies. I did not have a baby or social media back then. I was a serious student. I never got a zero. Never. I would arrange with my profs to take them soon after. That actually was the “rule” in several colleges I attended: If you had an emergency you communicated with your professor.
And in the jobs I worked you don’t get fired if you don’t show up one day. It is not as simple as that. You have sick days, you have personal days etc. You might get a short unpaid leave. You get fired if there is a pattern, other issues etc. There might be the kind of a job that you do get fired I don’t know but none of the jobs I or my friends have you get fired by not showing up for one day.
Being a parent is time-consuming.
Yes I saw that and I am sorry her Mother died last year.
Let’s say another student was in a bind and missed the quiz because they set their alarm for p.m. instead of a.m, another was in a bind because of an accident on the freeway and was late and missed the quiz, another because they had to take care of her ailing pet. Where is the line drawn? That was my only question.
When I went to school not too long ago the only way you were able to retake anything was with a doctor’s note.
Of course you don’t get fired after one day. Nobody ever said that. I said if you don’t follow the rules and don’t do the work you are fired.
Babies cry or make noise, which can be distracting and unfair to the rest of the class. If the kid was 7 instead of 3 months, I might look at it differently.
This is a Child Studies class. This baby can be considered as advanced laboratory equipment. If she cries it will be even better. Crying is a major part of child development.
In the real world, all good employers and managers accommodate their employees. They know that they will get more work out of them this way.
@Tanbiko This hasn’t been answered, but how is a professor holding a student’s baby while trying to teach class going to help the students?
If she cries it will be even better? No, that will just be distracting for the professor to get through the coursework.
You’re right, I guess it’s ok for people to bring their babies to work.