UC Berkeley College Republicans and their Bake Sale

[beyphy]

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Just because you can find someone to say it, it doesn’t mean that they’re right. And nowadays, there aren’t any “disadvantaged people” so your point is moot. And you say women too? You’re fighting a battle that you already won. Women aren’t disadvantaged.

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<p>what fantasy world are you living in? Things like unemployment rates are higher for minorities than their white counterparts; women make less money than their male counterparts for doing the same job. There’s still plenty of inequality out there.</p>

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Anyone can get an education at public schools. Don’t tell me they’re lesser quality than private schools–I have personally attended both types and am certain that it is actually public schools (in high school, at least) that have much greater opportunities.

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<p>let’s start with the obvious: if public schools were of equal quality to private schools, then why on earth would anyone pay to go to a private one?</p>

<p>Sure, some public schools are the same quality as private schools (like Palos Verdes High school) but i guarantee you that the vast majority does not. I was reading an article recently on Manual Arts High School which said that, not only were their resources severely limited, they had too many students, and were understaffed, but they’d also been through 10 principles in 10 years. LAUSD has long been synonymous with inferior public education. (which is why its drop out rates are like 60%)</p>

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Parents who didn’t get an education? So what? There are always teachers and such who can help in that realm. The “playing field” is already level, so helping one group over another is just prejudice, plain and simple.

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<p>there aren’t always such teachers. I had one in maybe 12 years of public school (who i’m sincerely indebted to and was extremely lucky to have access to.) The system as a whole is broken though.</p>

<p>if the playing field were level then why do asians and whites overwhelmingly outrepresent their black and hispanic peers in colleges? if things were truly level, wouldn’t the statistics reflect that? i mean, that is, unless these people, as races with millions of people, just decided altogether that most of them weren’t going to go to college.</p>

<p>the truth is, you’re just arguing your preconceived notions, which have been refuted by evidence, and which you refuse to accept.</p>

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That’s just your opinion. It’s not fact. And it’s un-American.

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<p>A huge part of what it means to be American means equal opportunities. It’s inevitable that some people may not have them. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t do anything about it. </p>

<p>It’s only ‘un-american’ if you think that all we’re doing is giving these people a free pass. We’re not. You still won’t see a 1.4 GPA student at UCLA. But you might see students with a 3.3. This wouldn’t even be an issue certain groups weren’t overly represented in colleges, but they are, and as a result of that some people think we should do something about that.</p>